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UAV Darter waypoints do not always work
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Description

Often the Darter will spin in circles or fly around instead of directly to the waypoint given. Even if it gets to the waypoint it will then spin uncontrollably.

Video here (comment below): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzNzfjT6kYg

Details

Legacy ID
3516010279
Severity
None
Resolution
Open
Reproducibility
Always
Operating System
Windows 7
Category
UAV (Unmanned Aerial Vehicle)
Steps To Reproduce

Open UAV terminal and tell darter to move somewhere via shift-click waypoints.

Additional Information

When doing this, it also makes the camera for the gunner VERY unstable/buggy.

Event Timeline

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Chubbs edited Steps To Reproduce. (Show Details)May 21 2015, 12:30 AM
Chubbs edited Additional Information. (Show Details)
Chubbs set Category to UAV (Unmanned Aerial Vehicle).
Chubbs set Reproducibility to Sometimes.
Chubbs set Severity to None.
Chubbs set Resolution to Open.
Chubbs set Legacy ID to 3516010279.May 8 2016, 12:07 PM
Adam added a comment.May 21 2015, 8:37 AM

Hello, i'm unable to reproduce the issue. Could you please provide more info? Thank you!

Lex added a subscriber: Lex.May 8 2016, 12:07 PM
Lex added a comment.May 21 2015, 5:23 PM

Connect the terminal to the UAV "Darter". Open a terminal window. Click on the map Strl + the left mouse button. UAV is flying to your destination. Sometimes it does not reach to the point. Either starts to rotate around the nighttime radially. In this there is a problem. Take control of SAW. Rotation stop. Switch to laser control, and UAV begins again to rotate or move what that point. This causes a problem in the use of UAV intended purpose.
When I take manual control of UAV itself off and run on to the destination, there is no problem with the control, the position of UAV is maintained, there is no uncontrolled rotation.

it happened to me before the UAV don't obey the order it's like ignoring the waypoint

Chubbs added a subscriber: Chubbs.May 8 2016, 12:07 PM

Here's a video of it. It seems to only be an issue in multiplayer, when I tested in the editor I could not reproduce.

In the video, the Darter had a shift-click waypoint going to the left and it was told to stick to 500 altitude. You can see how it attempts to fly left but fails as it spins in circles. (1~ minute video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzNzfjT6kYg

Lex added a comment.May 28 2015, 3:49 PM

Yes, in the editor there are no problems with the UAV. A problem only in a multiplayer.

Today made an UAV problem in the editor. When the UAV moved to the destination, I took an management the laser, guided the laser at the purpose and pressed the key "fix position of the laser". After that actions, the UAV started rotating, and cyclically to lose and again to fix the laser on the purpose.
It has to continue the rectilinear movement to a point and keep fixing on the purpose.
In a multiplayer of the UAV behaves as AI, itself finds the purpose and begins rotation, thus without fixing the laser on the purpose. Sometimes it leaves from under control. All available options of behavior of the UAV - the right click of a mouse on the UAV in the card. But sometimes it does not return stability in management of the UAV.

Chubbs added a comment.Jun 8 2015, 3:18 PM

Hope this hasn't been overlooked... Adam does that video help you at all?

I had same problems with Greyhawk/Ababil.
Before last release it was rarely happening, actually in the last 2 times I had an UAV I was not able to make it land or move on assigned waypoint.

got the same problem with the poor little uav thats sad because i actually love this little friend it seams the ground high makes this little uav ai crazy

Lex added a comment.Jul 7 2015, 12:07 PM

Hello Adam. What with a question on the Darter UAV? If to give the UAV a task to change height, it gives the UAV to rotate. I understand when the plane has to gain height and to remain in any zone. It should be turned round a point. But "Darter" as well as the helicopter is capable to rise or fall without rotation.

still not fixed .. i use the darter drone alot to get a overviewe of the battle zone and or my hostage if anyone have a fix pls tell me :(

The status has been changed to assigned but it would be good to get an update on if this has been reproduced by BI or if there's enough to research into the problem... I'm sure the community can help out if there needs to be more evidence/testing.

I also experienced this behavior numerous times in singleplayer as-well, but I don't think you can really reproduce this event - the behavior of ArmAs AI is too Sporadic & Inconsistent...

But I have noticed that this typically occurs during very complex missions (Many Units, Waypoints, Scripts, Ect.)...

This is happening to me. I'm in a Multiplayer server, and the camera shakes uncontrollably and the UAV keeps rotating in random directions.

This happens regardless of any waypoints

Lex added a comment.Jun 13 2016, 12:23 AM

When I fix this?

Lex added a comment.Aug 25 2016, 3:52 PM

When wait for fixes? Take the time to fix it.

It always happens to me!

Every time that in mark a distant crossing point, it moves for about 300m and starts these turns.

Chubbs updated the task description. (Show Details)Sep 14 2016, 2:01 AM
Chubbs changed Reproducibility from Sometimes to Always.
Chubbs set Operating System to Windows 7.

This is now happening more than ever, I cannot use UAVs at all using their autonomous waypoints and others are getting the same issues according to the comments in the youtube video. Can we get some word on this? Has it been acknowledged at least?

Lex added a comment.Sep 21 2016, 3:06 PM

When will we see humility assistent?

Lex added a comment.EditedNov 3 2016, 2:29 PM

Remember as AI gets into the car. Takes a detour near the car. And at the UAV, only infinite circles.
To the ticket term 1.5 years. Please fix a problem.

Lex added a comment.EditedNov 22 2016, 12:40 AM

I do not understand this bug is easy to appear on bespilotnike. I put two drone in the editor, and a detachment of the enemy. During the game in the editor, drone revolves around the point and can not take the appointed position.
Is there no time to fix it?
Video
https://youtu.be/Vk_Rjf8liOA
for Mission Editor.


Use the UAV to detect the enemy.

Lex added a comment.EditedNov 23 2016, 12:55 AM

Replace the name on - UAV Darter traveling points don't work.
98% of UAV Darter won't reach in a point.
ArmA 3 RC 1.66
You when solve it UAV Darter?
https://youtu.be/UOQncpTZk9Q

This thing is becoming more and more frustrating since the Falcon introduction with Apex.
It would be nice to use an UAV without the thrilling of not being capable of moving it where needed.

Please guys, please

KtDodye added a subscriber: KtDodye.EditedJan 15 2017, 5:23 PM

Bump!

Hello.
I'm not quite sure if BIS is acknowledging this bug and it's importance to fix it. This is a big problem for me, since I started playing arma3 two years ago, and since then, nothing was done about it! It is happening 9.8/10 times for me and it is so frustrating, that I started avoiding UAV which is real shame.

Please give me hope that somebody will do something about it in 2017.

Thank you for your game and work, but this really grinds my gears!
Kluci prosím mrkněte se na to. Ahoj =)
KtDodye
(1.67.139969 dev)

oukej reopened this task as Acknowledged.
oukej raised the priority of this task from Wishlist to High.
Chubbs added a comment.EditedJan 21 2017, 5:53 PM

Fleeing returns false, however unwanted behavior continues

edit: Tested locally in editor

MCOX added a subscriber: MCOX.Jan 27 2017, 5:35 AM
I thought it might be an altitude problem as I was using 2000m pretty consistently for my waypoints but I just confirmed that the altitude does not matter.  The Falcon waypoint system is completely broken as I tried all of them and none of them would make it even come close to actually getting to a waypoint.  I manually attained 200m, 500m and 2000m before I set the movement waypoint and it did not get there no matter what.  I did get the Darter to a waypoint by using the hold waypoint mode once but only once out of 6 times that I tried.  Otherwise they both spin out of control not seeming to know where they waypoint that I set was.  Also a major bug is that you can't release the autonomous mode at all once you give them a waypoint.  I tried deleting the waypoint and turning off  autonomous in the terminal but they continue to try to get to the waypoint that was set earlier..
RBNT added a subscriber: RBNT.Feb 6 2017, 5:04 PM
Lex added a comment.Feb 17 2017, 12:42 PM

As before, all Arma3\RC\DEV versions reproduce a problem.

Lex added a comment.EditedFeb 23 2017, 1:35 AM

As before, all Arma3DEV versions 1.69.0.140539 - The problem is reproduced
https://youtu.be/g0wG296CQew

xyaren added a subscriber: xyaren.Feb 27 2017, 10:50 PM
Lex added a comment.Mar 3 2017, 2:06 PM

As before, all Arma3DEV versions 1.69.0.140658 - The problem is reproduced

smp1991 added a subscriber: smp1991.Mar 8 2017, 8:37 AM

Can confirm this. I find that it only happens when you set the altitude of the Darter. If you create a waypoint it will move to the waypoint just fine. If you assign it an altitude it will trip out hard, every few hundred meters.

Lex added a comment.Mar 8 2017, 12:58 PM

@smp1991 Perhaps there is serial communication. But this time, when the UAV cannot reach the route point, assigned to the UAV keeps height. It looks
as loss of coordination in movement.

warlocc added a subscriber: warlocc.Apr 1 2017, 5:40 PM

This problem is beyond frustrating.

Until now nothing to solve the probl

Lex added a comment.Jun 11 2017, 3:34 PM
This comment was removed by Lex.
Lex added a comment.Jun 23 2017, 1:14 AM

At 1.72, there are good changes in the behavior of Darter. It can easily be stabilized when it can not come to the waypoint.
It's very good that he does not try to come to the waypoint when I remove the waypoint. It's almost a victory. Many thanks. I hope you will be able to teach Darter to fly, and not make unnecessary turns around the axis.

Lex added a comment.EditedAug 13 2017, 11:53 PM

In 1.74 \ DEV1.75. Now UAV in most trial flights does not fly to the waypoint. Almost always, deviates from the course to the waypoint and rotates, makes a roundabout, at a distance of 100-500 meters from the waypoint. These UAV rotations turn into an endless cycle, and do not stop without operator intervention.

Not sure if that blocking task has anything to do with this one.

Lex added a comment.Dec 15 2017, 12:25 AM

Not sure if that blocking task has anything to do with this one.

I do not understand how it happened. I created subtask.

Lex added a comment.Jan 17 2018, 12:52 AM

When fix this?

Lex added a comment.Jan 31 2018, 5:06 PM

Open as Feature change
T120265
Merge tasks
T120263

Ateir added a subscriber: Ateir.Feb 1 2018, 1:53 PM
Vitdom added a subscriber: Vitdom.Mar 29 2018, 7:35 PM

Confirmed still an issue sometimes in RC 1.82.

Confirmed this behaviour still exists in latest release as well as current dev build (1.83.144597)

madpat3 added a subscriber: madpat3.EditedApr 9 2018, 12:27 PM

it seems, that at least for the darter , it doesn't delete last waypoint. set a waypoint for the darter via terminal. see how it begins to travel to it. then delete the waypoint. see, that it's still flying towards the already deleted waypoint.

@Lex: better?

Lex added a comment.EditedApr 24 2018, 7:19 AM

@madpat3 this ticket about UAV Darter which can't reach a traveling point.
For other problems with UAV Darter it is necessary to create other ticket with steps of reproduction of a problem.

Still not working in 2019

In T82570#1664972, @Lex wrote:

Open as Feature change
T120265
Merge tasks
T120263

This is also not related to the problem stated in this ticket.

This ticket was assigned to Adam, who hasn't been active since 2016 it seems. Can we get this reassigned?

Lex added a subscriber: Geez.EditedSun, Apr 21, 9:35 PM

@Wulf My ticket T120265 was closed - as "no problem" or "this is according to the scenario." But you do not solve the problem of moving the darter to the control point. As a result, we have a non-working darter, we have the opportunity to stop the rotation in offline mode, but we lose control of the camera. What happens four years, and when this ticket will find the attention and solution?

Lex added a subscriber: Wulf.Tue, Apr 23, 3:00 AM
Geez removed a subscriber: Geez.Fri, Apr 26, 12:30 PM