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UAV Darter waypoints do not always work
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Description

Often the Darter will spin in circles or fly around instead of directly to the waypoint given. Even if it gets to the waypoint it will then spin uncontrollably.

Video here (comment below): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzNzfjT6kYg

Details

Legacy ID
3516010279
Severity
None
Resolution
Open
Reproducibility
Always
Operating System
Windows 7
Category
UAV (Unmanned Aerial Vehicle)
Steps To Reproduce

Open UAV terminal and tell darter to move somewhere via shift-click waypoints.

Additional Information

When doing this, it also makes the camera for the gunner VERY unstable/buggy.

Event Timeline

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Lex added a comment.Sep 21 2016, 3:06 PM

When will we see humility assistent?

Lex added a comment.EditedNov 3 2016, 2:29 PM

Remember as AI gets into the car. Takes a detour near the car. And at the UAV, only infinite circles.
To the ticket term 1.5 years. Please fix a problem.

Lex added a comment.EditedNov 22 2016, 12:40 AM

I do not understand this bug is easy to appear on bespilotnike. I put two drone in the editor, and a detachment of the enemy. During the game in the editor, drone revolves around the point and can not take the appointed position.
Is there no time to fix it?
Video
https://youtu.be/Vk_Rjf8liOA
for Mission Editor.


Use the UAV to detect the enemy.

Lex added a comment.EditedNov 23 2016, 12:55 AM

Replace the name on - UAV Darter traveling points don't work.
98% of UAV Darter won't reach in a point.
ArmA 3 RC 1.66
You when solve it UAV Darter?
https://youtu.be/UOQncpTZk9Q

This thing is becoming more and more frustrating since the Falcon introduction with Apex.
It would be nice to use an UAV without the thrilling of not being capable of moving it where needed.

Please guys, please

KtDodye added a subscriber: KtDodye.EditedJan 15 2017, 5:23 PM

Bump!

Hello.
I'm not quite sure if BIS is acknowledging this bug and it's importance to fix it. This is a big problem for me, since I started playing arma3 two years ago, and since then, nothing was done about it! It is happening 9.8/10 times for me and it is so frustrating, that I started avoiding UAV which is real shame.

Please give me hope that somebody will do something about it in 2017.

Thank you for your game and work, but this really grinds my gears!
Kluci prosím mrkněte se na to. Ahoj =)
KtDodye
(1.67.139969 dev)

oukej reopened this task as Acknowledged.
oukej raised the priority of this task from Wishlist to High.
Chubbs added a comment.EditedJan 21 2017, 5:53 PM

Fleeing returns false, however unwanted behavior continues

edit: Tested locally in editor

MCOX added a subscriber: MCOX.Jan 27 2017, 5:35 AM
I thought it might be an altitude problem as I was using 2000m pretty consistently for my waypoints but I just confirmed that the altitude does not matter.  The Falcon waypoint system is completely broken as I tried all of them and none of them would make it even come close to actually getting to a waypoint.  I manually attained 200m, 500m and 2000m before I set the movement waypoint and it did not get there no matter what.  I did get the Darter to a waypoint by using the hold waypoint mode once but only once out of 6 times that I tried.  Otherwise they both spin out of control not seeming to know where they waypoint that I set was.  Also a major bug is that you can't release the autonomous mode at all once you give them a waypoint.  I tried deleting the waypoint and turning off  autonomous in the terminal but they continue to try to get to the waypoint that was set earlier..
RBNT added a subscriber: RBNT.Feb 6 2017, 5:04 PM
Lex added a comment.Feb 17 2017, 12:42 PM

As before, all Arma3\RC\DEV versions reproduce a problem.

Lex added a comment.EditedFeb 23 2017, 1:35 AM

As before, all Arma3DEV versions 1.69.0.140539 - The problem is reproduced
https://youtu.be/g0wG296CQew

xyaren added a subscriber: xyaren.Feb 27 2017, 10:50 PM
Lex added a comment.Mar 3 2017, 2:06 PM

As before, all Arma3DEV versions 1.69.0.140658 - The problem is reproduced

smp1991 added a subscriber: smp1991.Mar 8 2017, 8:37 AM

Can confirm this. I find that it only happens when you set the altitude of the Darter. If you create a waypoint it will move to the waypoint just fine. If you assign it an altitude it will trip out hard, every few hundred meters.

Lex added a comment.Mar 8 2017, 12:58 PM

@smp1991 Perhaps there is serial communication. But this time, when the UAV cannot reach the route point, assigned to the UAV keeps height. It looks
as loss of coordination in movement.

warlocc added a subscriber: warlocc.Apr 1 2017, 5:40 PM

This problem is beyond frustrating.

Until now nothing to solve the probl

Lex added a comment.Jun 11 2017, 3:34 PM
This comment was removed by Lex.
Lex added a comment.Jun 23 2017, 1:14 AM

At 1.72, there are good changes in the behavior of Darter. It can easily be stabilized when it can not come to the waypoint.
It's very good that he does not try to come to the waypoint when I remove the waypoint. It's almost a victory. Many thanks. I hope you will be able to teach Darter to fly, and not make unnecessary turns around the axis.

Lex added a comment.EditedAug 13 2017, 11:53 PM

In 1.74 \ DEV1.75. Now UAV in most trial flights does not fly to the waypoint. Almost always, deviates from the course to the waypoint and rotates, makes a roundabout, at a distance of 100-500 meters from the waypoint. These UAV rotations turn into an endless cycle, and do not stop without operator intervention.

Not sure if that blocking task has anything to do with this one.

Lex added a comment.Dec 15 2017, 12:25 AM

Not sure if that blocking task has anything to do with this one.

I do not understand how it happened. I created subtask.

Lex added a comment.Jan 17 2018, 12:52 AM

When fix this?

Lex added a comment.Jan 31 2018, 5:06 PM

Open as Feature change
T120265
Merge tasks
T120263

Ateir added a subscriber: Ateir.Feb 1 2018, 1:53 PM
Vitdom added a subscriber: Vitdom.Mar 29 2018, 7:35 PM

Confirmed still an issue sometimes in RC 1.82.

Confirmed this behaviour still exists in latest release as well as current dev build (1.83.144597)

madpat3 added a subscriber: madpat3.EditedApr 9 2018, 12:27 PM

it seems, that at least for the darter , it doesn't delete last waypoint. set a waypoint for the darter via terminal. see how it begins to travel to it. then delete the waypoint. see, that it's still flying towards the already deleted waypoint.

@Lex: better?

Lex added a comment.EditedApr 24 2018, 7:19 AM

@madpat3 this ticket about UAV Darter which can't reach a traveling point.
For other problems with UAV Darter it is necessary to create other ticket with steps of reproduction of a problem.

Still not working in 2019

In T82570#1664972, @Lex wrote:

Open as Feature change
T120265
Merge tasks
T120263

This is also not related to the problem stated in this ticket.

This ticket was assigned to Adam, who hasn't been active since 2016 it seems. Can we get this reassigned?

Lex added a subscriber: Geez.EditedApr 21 2019, 9:35 PM

@Wulf My ticket T120265 was closed - as "no problem" or "this is according to the scenario." But you do not solve the problem of moving the darter to the control point. As a result, we have a non-working darter, we have the opportunity to stop the rotation in offline mode, but we lose control of the camera. What happens four years, and when this ticket will find the attention and solution?

Lex added a subscriber: Wulf.Apr 23 2019, 3:00 AM
Geez removed a subscriber: Geez.Apr 26 2019, 12:30 PM
Lex added a comment.EditedJul 29 2019, 1:11 PM
In T82570#1664972, @Lex wrote:

Open as Feature change
T120265
Merge tasks
T120263

This is also not related to the problem stated in this ticket.

Communication is not in the problem, but in the UAV, which comprehensively receives the problem of control / use in all functions that the player does not receive when using the UAV. By the sum of the problems, the player cannot comfortably use the UAV in the game for many problems. I point to this connection.

Lex added a comment.EditedJul 29 2019, 1:19 PM

it seems, that at least for the darter , it doesn't delete last waypoint. set a waypoint for the darter via terminal. see how it begins to travel to it. then delete the waypoint. see, that it's still flying towards the already deleted waypoint.

@Lex: better?

This seems to be a common problem for AI, which I pointed out on this ticket https://feedback.bistudio.com/T127626 .

Masaker added a subscriber: Masaker.Aug 8 2019, 8:11 PM
DodoD added a subscriber: DodoD.Aug 11 2019, 8:26 AM

The greyhawks have a similar problem where they will randomly start going off in a random direction. Also this seems to happen after u try to couteract the bug with greyhawks automatically going into landing autopilot

Groove_C removed a subscriber: Groove_C.Jan 27 2020, 1:27 AM
elkoba added a subscriber: elkoba.Oct 10 2020, 1:06 AM

Hi,

ticket is 5 years old now,

c'mon guys :)
any news?

Chubbs added a comment.EditedOct 14 2020, 3:42 PM

Not fixed in 2.0

Re-Tested in editor with an empty map with only BLUFOR units: UAV operator as player and UAVs. Tested UAV Darter, Pelican, Pelican Medical, and Falcon. All have the same behaviour. No mods loaded.

We need this re-assigned as the person it's assigned to hasn't had any activity since 2016.

Hopefully fixed with Arma 4!

This comment was removed by BIS_fnc_KK.
BIS_fnc_KK removed Adam as the assignee of this task.Oct 30 2021, 10:09 PM
BIS_fnc_KK changed the task status from Acknowledged to Need More Info.
BIS_fnc_KK added a subscriber: Adam.
BIS_fnc_KK changed the task status from Need More Info to Acknowledged.

https://feedback.bistudio.com/T119487

I created a similar ticket.

Most of my experience was on the Tanoa map at the time.

BIS_fnc_KK set Ref Ticket to T119487.Oct 31 2021, 9:18 AM
Chubbs added a comment.EditedOct 31 2021, 11:21 AM

Glad this is getting picked up again. Happy to help explain the troubleshooting steps. For a visual reference, here is a new video that I took today (30/10/2021) https://youtu.be/4fcd0kE1etM

Video has:

  • No mods loaded
  • Begins at game launch
  • Follows steps below
  • Has only 1 unit on the map (1x UAV Operator) so there are no "fleeing" or enemy detection issues
  • Purposely long to showcase the issue continues - Please fast forward as you need to see the next parts of the video, at no point has the video speed been changed (aka. no fast-forward or slowing down time)
  • Runs the scenario twice with the bug in both

Steps:

  1. Launch Arma with no mods
  2. Open Editor
  3. Place down UAV operator unit
  4. Create UAV using scroll-wheel
  5. Open UAV terminal and connect to the UAV | Alternate: Scroll-wheel on the UAV to connect to UAV before opening terminal
  6. Shift-Click UAV to a point on the map
  7. Select Height (in the video I did 200)
  8. Watch UAV attempt to get to waypoint, eventually spinning out forever

Hope this helps and thanks for picking up issues like this again!

should be fixed in 148703

BIS_fnc_KK removed BIS_fnc_KK as the assignee of this task.Feb 2 2022, 8:59 PM
BIS_fnc_KK changed the task status from Acknowledged to Feedback.
BIS_fnc_KK changed the status of subtask T123050: Darter and Falcon waypoint and movement issues from Acknowledged to Feedback.
EasapeToTarkov added a subscriber: EasapeToTarkov.EditedMar 11 2022, 6:48 AM

should be fixed in 148703

still have this problem in 2.08.148892.

btw: check this sames problem plz. MQ-4A not following waypoints after landing UAV Stops Operating After Landing Waypoint

Hi, could you please test latest dev when confirming fix or not fix? 2.08 is not the latest dev so it is possible some fixes didn’t make it.

Hi, could you please test latest dev when confirming fix or not fix? 2.08 is not the latest dev so it is possible some fixes didn’t make it.

tested in 2.09.148939, still have this problem. tried AL-6, AR-2. after landing.

@EasapeToTarkov Please provide exact steps, I am not able to confirm on latest dev

EasapeToTarkov added a comment.EditedMar 11 2022, 4:32 PM

@EasapeToTarkov Please provide exact steps, I am not able to confirm on latest dev

@BIS_fnc_KK Hi, here is the steps i did:

  1. Place a UAV Operator(AL-6) or Rifleman in the editor with a UAV Terminal.
  2. Place a UAV(AL-6, AR-2, MQ-4A).
  3. Start the mission and open the UAV Terminal.
  4. Connect to the UAV.
  5. Shift-click on the terminal map and set the waypoint to nearby.
  6. Right-click the waypoint, set height to 50 or others
  7. Wait UAV to position
  8. Shift-click on the terminal map, set waypoint nearby again
  9. Right-click the waypoint set type to LAND
  10. Wait UAV to landed and engine stoped
  11. Open UAV Terminal, Shift-click to anywhere to set the waypoint
  12. UAV not work anymore.

I also tried unchecked Autonomous, still not working.

Here i found a way to make it work:

  1. Disassemble the UAV (AR-2, AL-6)
  2. Take the UAV Bag
  3. Assemble UVA Bag
  4. Connect terminal to UAV
  5. Open UAV Terminal
  6. Shift-click anywhere
  7. Wow, It working again! (But not work for MQ-4A)

BTW: Good Luck For Debugging!

Thanks, but this is not related to Darter spinning in circles and not reaching waypoint, which is this ticket about. I will look at your repro when I have time, thanks