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Dual wield handguns and SMGs
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Make Dual wield for pistols and small smg's, perfect for cqb!
Add ability to mix ot togather, if have 2 weapons in both hands, LMB - left weapon trigger, RMB - right weapon trigger

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Legacy ID
3436093141
Severity
Feature
Resolution
Not A Bug
Reproducibility
Always
Category
Feature Request
Steps To Reproduce

take 2 pistols in your both hands and take fun!

Event Timeline

Bohemia edited Steps To Reproduce. (Show Details)Mar 31 2013, 10:27 PM
Bohemia edited Additional Information. (Show Details)
Bohemia set Category to Feature Request.
Bohemia set Reproducibility to Always.
Bohemia set Severity to Feature.
Bohemia set Resolution to Not A Bug.
Bohemia set Legacy ID to 3436093141.May 7 2016, 1:20 PM
Bohemia added a subscriber: Bohemia.May 7 2016, 1:20 PM

johncage you insane? look at repro steps!

Its possible in RL!

please no... yea, sure... I can go shoot both my pistols in real life in both hands.. but never in combat or a combat sim

If implemented realistically, why not. Implemented realistically, of course, would mean you couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with either gun.

Maxyz added a subscriber: Maxyz.May 7 2016, 1:20 PM

Voted up! Also we need levels and unlockable perks. Yay for the dual wielded machineguns!

who let these guys in arma?... oh, yeah i forgot. DAYZ-.-

MadDogX added a subscriber: MadDogX.May 7 2016, 1:20 PM

Title edited for clarity. Urge to close ticket resisted.

deadfast, the only way to implement this feature realistically is not to implement it at all.

why waste the devs time on this when there's a bunch of other issues that are much more important and add more to the game?

we have dummy sandbox shooter, because we have downvoters :D!

I talk about pistols and small SMG's, pistols be cool!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCxXqHwRPS8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Ot2xRKRmG7Q

Domexy added a subscriber: Domexy.May 7 2016, 1:20 PM

Kol9yN, I believe those are BB guns in the video you posted.

I think this is the first time I've ever seen a comment from johncage with which I completly agree...
How about a max unit then?
I think Mythbusters did one or two episodes about dual handling pistols.
MadDogX, did you not close it to try to get a new downvote record?

On a serious note:
It could be nice to be able to grab 1 shot grenade launcher usw. without putting the currently used weapon back into its halfter. Something like throw the rifle on the ground, grab launcher, fire through that window and have your rifle up again instantly.

fans of military simulations and close quaters battle dont want double wield...

Removed troll posts. Please don't spam and just vote. If you have something reasonable to comment on a technical level or real life comparison please do.

proof reason :), why no

@Moderators
Up/Down votes ratio is 5/85

I guess this feature request could be rejected straight forward and be closed ?

take two pistols and shoot ;)

Im propose not only dual wield, i want to improve engine functional

A ticket getting downvoted into oblivion is not a reason to close it.

But rest assured that the devs will be looking at the vote count before deciding which feature requests to take seriously.

tyl3r99, never playd in COD, arma only!!

@Devs: dual wield open doors to use pistol or smg with Tactical Shields, knife and pistol, etc.

For stealth kills and melee combat...
Btw, Stalker have this feature and its good in Campagin and in pvp!

Its will be great feature for engine, and for DayZ! :)
So have reason to make it possible, please open your eyes...

@Kol9yN, in all honesty I do not see this feature being added im afraid.

im sure years down the line there will be many many many many different mods, addons that will blow you away and you will forget duel wield

I have a hard time seeing dual wielding being relevant to a military simulator. It seems more fit for a game genre with less focus on realism.

This would prob. fit better in the possibilities of the modding realm.

Also if you would like it for DayZ I think you should open a feature request for that game, since this tracker is not linked to DayZ.

Sorry, but I'm not voting up on this one.

kOepi added a subscriber: kOepi.May 7 2016, 1:20 PM
kOepi added a comment.Apr 12 2013, 3:55 PM

hahaha. if that will be implemented, I will request this aswell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51CTM49rcrs

Sure, let's add this for just one build so people can see how ludicrous it really is.

Dual wield is not only a waste of ammo but also intelligence (if there was any to begin with).

Downvoted obviously. Poorly thought-out idea, wouldn't work nowhere near efficient on any milsim or game that takes actual ballistics and weapon behaviour into account.

samogon added a subscriber: samogon.May 7 2016, 1:20 PM

Dual wield was used in USSR with revolvers.Shooting was inaccurate and does only for one thing - to compensate small magazine and small forerate.Modern pistols like Glock17,well actually even Makarov have good firerate.No sense to do this.

Ok, again for those who didn't see/get it:

Vote - that's why it's there and don't spam the comments/notes. Abusive/spam comments will be deleted and repeating offenders might have their accounts disabled.

Mitor added a subscriber: Mitor.May 7 2016, 1:20 PM

Stop adding notes to this topic, let it drown.

What i mean more here:
Each hand can be controlled by config, physX and scripts:

  • melee combat (as in Skyrim and other games)
  • weapon & care something
  • 2 pistols
  • pistol & knife
  • explosive trigger & smg/pistol
  • and more, and more, and more...

@Devs: So here lot of variations how you can combine items and weapons in hands, you must think about this, please consider this idea

Kalle82 added a subscriber: Kalle82.May 7 2016, 1:20 PM

Seriously?! Kol9yN plz stop. Your not helping your case...

Your gonna get melee combat (as in Skyrim) in DayZ. Why should you carry a pistol and a knife at the same time, not even CoD got that?

Explosive trigger you already got, just use your mousewheel.

Bad, Bad, BAD idea! Now stop it.

Kol9yN, if this is a troll ticket, congratulations, its succefull, it actually works.

Yes, you can dual wield handguns.... or ANY gun for that matter if we are going techy here, however, i want you to see how does dual wielding a gun in a battlefield is any good besides a waste of ammo and telling the enemy where are you.

How could this be implemented without overhauling the inventory system anyway? It's already a non-starter for that reason IMO. Although it would be funny to see it in a mod at a later date.

Impractical in real life, obviously a very unpopular issue in the sim community, even a shallow sim like Arma. There are almost ZERO scenarios in a military environment where dual-wielding pistols or submachine guns gives you a marked improvement in how well you eliminate an enemy. In all honesty, is makes it worse, as you are very inaccurate except at 10 meters or less.

Look, if you are accurate, one or two bullets will do the job at "dual-wield range" (10m). I can say very confidently from experience at the range it is a hell of a lot easier to shoulder fire a SMG in CQC and achieve kill shots than it is to use two pistols in any manner of holding them. There is no reason to implement this and 200+ people agree with me.

By the way, using a shield and a handgun is a COMPLETELY different story. You can actually aim pretty accurately with one if you get the technique down right.

No. Just no. Let's keep this as a mil-sim.

btwinch added a subscriber: btwinch.May 7 2016, 1:20 PM

I DO NOT WANT ARMA TURNING INTO CALL OF DUTY.

ENOUGH SAID

Crierd added a subscriber: Crierd.May 7 2016, 1:20 PM

Wow, I hope this is a troll.

Unfortunately, I doubt it is with the massive influx of dull folks who are now interested in the Arma series.

paravbs added a subscriber: paravbs.May 7 2016, 1:20 PM

Downvoted. No, thank you to that. Ever fired two pistols in real life? Sure, it's possible, but you won't hit anything. What's next, asking to be able to fire a SAW in each hand, because you saw someone do it on YouTube?

No way man.
With to handguns it`s almost impossible to hit a human target in 10 meters.
Way of track man.

Downvoted,

If this gets added, May as well rename the game, Call Of Duty: Arma

OMG man ... soon people will request knife instakills... =D

dunadan added a subscriber: dunadan.May 7 2016, 1:20 PM

How about no...

DayZ what have you done to us! Back to cod with you.

The more you keep bumping the topic the more attention you bring to it, just let it go.

Fa11en added a subscriber: Fa11en.May 7 2016, 1:20 PM
Fa11en added a comment.Jul 5 2013, 7:42 PM

No, Thanks DayZ........

Sensei added a subscriber: Sensei.May 7 2016, 1:20 PM

It isnt Call of Duty omg.

Obviously a troll post has no place on bugtracker please close

votes are obviously against this ticket... if this is implemented there will be a lot of pissed off supporters.

i dont care if i get reported for this post... this ticket has gone too far.

please please stop it.

tyler, EVEN YOU are against this ticket? wow

BAHAHAHAHHAHA

That's all I have to say about this one.

gutsnav added a subscriber: gutsnav.May 7 2016, 1:20 PM

In all seriousness, I can't find any tactical reason or any sane reason for dual wielding SMGs in a firefight. That's gangster shit.

Dual wielding pistols in real life is only useful in extremely, un-godly LIMITED circumstances. Not enough to justify putting the capability into ARMA3.

That said, there was a case in Vietname where a U.S. sniper was moving from one location to another, when he suddenly came accross 5 NVA soldiers face-to-face. The sniper dropped his sniper rifle, pulled two pistols, and through violence of action (firing duel pistols at the soldiers), he shot at least 2 of them and got the others to run away. He survived that engagement and the entire war.

I do NOT advocate the duel pistol option. In fact, I am against adding it to ARMA3. But technically, there has been at least 1 real world case (in Vietnam) and helped keep the soldier alive.

When the situation was re-enacted to test whether the sniper would have done better with his sniper rifle or the duel pistols, it was proved that in face-to-face close combat, the sniper's choice to drop his rifle and use duel pistols gave him much more "INSTANT" firepower, which created a violence-of-action situation that helped save his life from the 5 NVA soldiers who were armed with AK-47s.

Bere i mean about ability to take twodiffere titems in hands
Pistol and knife/grenade/taser/etc... shield and rifle/pistol

I think we can show for all how it works in addon example...

Vespa added a subscriber: Vespa.May 7 2016, 1:20 PM
Vespa added a comment.Jul 30 2013, 2:47 PM

I was JUST about to commit dualwielding, but then I saw 96% downvotes.. Well, what can you do ¯\_(ツ)_/¯