I can add what I have seen. I am an admin on Epoch/Exile servers. I spawn in ANY western clothing, it will spawn in and I can put it on. BUT, once I log-out via proper saving methods and I come RIGHT BACK IN, that clothing does NOT exist!

BUT, if i spawn in EASTERN clothes, that stays! It appears to be an issue with western and i THINK independent gear as well.

I can replicate this all day long - fails (or works ) every time.

:)

It seems to happen if you pick up gear from a dead player. On your screen you still see your gear but others see you in your underwear. Also if you relog, you will lose the uniform and vest including everything in it.

Any ETA on a fix or a way to minimize the chance?

Happens relatively often in DTAS, though still difficult to reproduce.

https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/144440-dynamic-take-and-secure-randomized-round-based-no-respawn-ad/

I have same problem in Exile mod every time join in server lost vest and uniform this things buy in trader in safe zone.

We are in August and the issue is still here.
Changing seat position in a vehicle seems to be the cause of the issue.

182/5000
When I'm in the vehicle and changing places in the vehicle, I'm suddenly naked, even though I'm wearing the uniform. Only a relog fixes the problem. Getting dressed does not help.

Is this ever going to get fixed? This report was made on "Dec 5 2015" and still hasn't been fixed.....

Caused by changing seats in a vehicle. There, now you have a very specific thing to investigate, get to work ;)

Had similar phenomenons since 1.84 but not before.

(uniform is visible in inventory and on body, but not for other clients)

grrrr also happens on spawned AI if they spawned on clients in dedicated environment.... i hate arma updates!

I can also vouch that this sometimes happens where uniforms disappear randomly. Sometimes its getting in and out of vehicles, sometimes its when someone is in an arsenal, and sometimes its when someone get something in their inventory via a scripted method such as an exile shop.

in 1.86 its still present

I confirm it's still present on 1.88. It's happened to me twice before in previous versions, and I just had it happen again. The previous comments might be on to something. I was also in a vehicle with other players and not doing anything when they said my clothes and vest disappeared. I could still see them. 5 minutes before it happened, I had switched from driver to passenger, in case it has anything to do with it. But that was 5 minutes before...

still happening on latest branch

its still present

Still present in the latest arma patch, ridiculous how this has not been fixed. This issue leads to armor & uniforms disappearing on other clients therefore damage is incorrect. Come on, sort this out!

Sadly we were unable to find the cause of the issue. If you've got a solid repro please share it with us. I am sorry about this.

Are you joking? All you need to do is join a multiplayer server and you will get the issue within 5 minutes. I believe a way of producing the issue is to switch seats in a vehicle on a server. Keep in mind, you can’t tell if the issue has happened to you, other players will see no clothing on whilst you see all your clothing on.

I'll say it again, although I doubt you care. One proven way to reproduce this is entering a vehicle and switching seats. It's very important to note that the issue doesn't appear immediately but a while after.

If you can't fix the bug, rewrite the way uniforms/vests are displayed as this is a major issue. Players experiencing the bug will have no armor/vest displayed meaning they have no ballistic protection.

It's unbelievable how long this has been an issue.

Sadly joining any multiplayer scenario isn't usable for debugging. We need the bug isolated ideally in a non cluttered environment.

What was stated about a 'clean environment' is true. I know with this being a MP issue, this makes it hard. What I would suggest is for you to RECORD THE VIDEO of this happening, also include the mods used as well as the version of these. This will be much better in helping them 'run this down'. Also you could create a local server and try to see if it works. No mods, just default ARMA gear. If it is in fact an issue with ARMA, you should see it happening there as well.

ARMA can be 'weird' at times. For example, I run 161 mods for SP ARMA. Everything works but one thing - The right mirror on the Strider is missing (it looks like the glass was removed). Left is just fine. But when I run default ARMA, the mirrors are there.

If this an error in ARMA, you would think it would show up in a Local server arrangement.

Personally, I have not seen this issue in a long time. This makes me think there is a 'bad mod' being used. Yes, there was a time when this would happen, and you did not have to 'wait', it was immediately.

:)

@Azeh - Then I would suggest you tell the Devs how it happens then. Everybody else is saying it happens on a MP server, and not to say this problem does not exist, I have never seen a 'default' ARMA server. This would exclude all the missions Bohemia has added for they are using scripts to accomplish that type of game play.

Also as I stated; RECORD IT.

As an admin/owner of my Exile server, I have not seen this issue. Then again, I do not 'swap seats' all the time either, but the times I did, nothing happened. And no one has reported such either in years.

Again, I have not seen it. I am NOT saying that it does exist. I have not seen nor heard of this error in 3+ years.

As an example, there are 2 commands to use to 'outfit' youself: AddUniform and ForceAddUniform.

AddUniform: Create a new uniform and try to link it into uniform slot (given uniform has to be supported by allowedUniforms list of target soldier). To check if uniform is allowed use isUniformAllowed and to force add incompatible uniform use forceAddUniform

WE (the readers) do not know which commands are being used and there are at least 5 commands for 'uniform'. We also have no idea if those script were even written correctly too. All we know is we have a uniform issue that appears can not be reproduced and shows up randomly.

Career wise, I am a Digital Tech and I perform repairs on computers, printers, and laptops. Sometimes even board level repairs. If you came to me and said you computer reboots and I take it and set ot up for 48 hours and nothing ever happened, you would be getting your computer back. I can not fix what I do not see. No one can.

As a programmer (hobby) for decades no one has provided what is really needed to solve this issue, if it really is an issue:

• No mods being used listed
• No versions of the mods being used
• No video

It is like u you being robbed and you call the police. They come by and ask you what happened. All you say is 'My stuff got stolen' and nothing else. Makes almost impossible for the police to solve.

I do not dispute what others are seeing, like Bohemia, I have not witnessed myself. They as I, can not fix what you can not see. Yes, at one time I also saw it. Not anymore.

My fellow ARMA brothers and sisters: Bohemia needs real and factual evidence of what has transpired. Not that 'it does not work'.

I still stand by my 'theory' that it is being caused by a 'funky' mod. This is based off my 'mirror' issue and the fact that I personally have not seen this in years on a KOTH, Epoch, and Exile servers.

:)

This is old, never seen again. Must have to do with package loss or netcode. seem fixed.
i remember that the issue goes along with spawned AI that was indep or east and was forced to join groups of an other side. green an red units in one group and those who are not at the side of the group wearing underwear.
if you have this issue, check your AI spawn scripts.
AI can be created in a wrong way.
Createunit and alternative syntax.
Check this first!
i remember that i have change my code and i never had this issiue again

In T85234#1849342, @CHIMERACyborg wrote:

This is old, never seen again. Must have to do with package loss or netcode. seem fixed.
i remember that the issue goes along with spawned AI that was indep or east and was forced to join groups of an other side. green an red units in one group and those who are not at the side of the group wearing underwear.
if you have this issue, check your AI spawn scripts.
AI can be created in a wrong way.
Createunit and alternative syntax.
Check this first!
i remember that i have change my code and i never had this issiue again

This is not fixed. It’s happening on latest arma patch to players not AI. We are not running any mods, using complete vanilla arma3 and this issue occurs daily to our players. Can you stop spreading shit.

This is not fixed. It’s happening on latest arma patch to players not AI. We are not running any mods, using complete vanilla arma3 and this issue occurs daily to our players. Can you stop spreading shit.

is it scenario depending?
what mission do you host?
after respawn? or during gameplay?
only uniform or complete naked?
only players with high ping or specific players or random?
signaturecheck on or off?

as i sayed, i remember this problems around ~1.74, but i changed the syntax of my ai spawn scripts...
since that time i do not recognize this issiue any longer.
greetz Cyb

@Digitals - Spreading BS? You mean like YOU DO??? "It does not work - Fix it!" That is the extent of your 'request'.

I AGREE with @CHIMERACyborg with what he said. He said pretty much what I said too.

Heaven forbid is some crappy mod you're using! I also noticed:

ZERO Video
ZERO mods and version being used
ZERO links to download your mission
ZERO ANYTHING except 'it does not work'

A reaction I would expect from someone under the age of 13 years old.

@Digitals , sorry. It is YOU who is spreading BS!

;)

Do you people bother reading about the issue?
THIS DOES NOT INVOLVE AI.
Uniform+vest is affected. Headgear and backpack is not.
NO MODS HAVE TO BE PRESENT FOR THIS TO OCCUR. You can flame digital all you want @z80cpu but you didn't bother to actually read what he said. Vanilla Arma. No mods. No AI. PLAYERS are affected. Agree with whomever you want, its still wrong.

The bug occurres during gameplay. Death will reset the player and the bug will stop.

The reason for lack of video is that you dont know if you are experiencing the bug or not. THE PLAYER WILL APPEAR NORMAL FOR ONESELF, BUT FOR OTHERS YOU WILL LACK UNIFORM AND VEST.

Did I clear up the basics? Dont comment useless shit that adds no input whatsoever. The only reason the bug report was made, is because us players want it fixed. Its a major issue for multiplayer infantry combat, hell even just aesthetics.

I lack the tools to give any other accurate information sadly, but I know some people have found a workaround that resets the clothing. Those people should help clarify the bug

Apart: You should definitely say what is your mission game, give a link or upload a scenario.... This way, people will not treat you as kid and perhaps will focus on the best parts of description:

It seems to happen if you pick up gear from a dead player. On your screen you still see your gear but others see you in your underwear. Also if you relog, you will lose the uniform and vest including everything in it.
I was also in a vehicle with other players and not doing anything when they said my clothes and vest disappeared. I could still see them. 5 minutes before it happened, I had switched from driver to passenger, in case it has anything to do with it.
One proven way to reproduce this is entering a vehicle and switching seats. It's very important to note that the issue doesn't appear immediately but a while after.

At this stage, there are too many unknown parameters, and I guess such things can occur independently from scenarii and mods.
That looks like a "memory overflow" (I would not be flamed using the wrong word), by a command/function registering the loadout data for switching seats/entering vehicle, then flushing that few minutes later.
Perhaps a JIP run some code, meanwhile, and leads to an unwanted case/loop/network comm...
I'm not a dev but I can't see how to fix that without any deep searches in what could impact the uniform + vest, without impacting backpack+headgear.
I remember a time when opening the arsenal will eject you from a vehicle...

Clearly, it seems that BI can't afford time, searching in past modifications, mobilizing devs for a common diagnostic, starting with few tracks like I did.
On the other hand, arguing there is no reproducible scenario is just an alternate way to close the topic.

@Cattegun - Please show me my post where I said it was AI ONLY? I ALWAYS said it happened to HUMAN PLAYERS...till it was FIXED! And you wish to claim I can not read? hahahahahahahahaaha

And you say it is not fixed? Where is your PROOF? Your EVIDENCE? This is pretty much what @PiepMGI has stated as well.

All I 'see' is you WHINING WITH NO EVIDENCE OR PROOF OF SUCH!

And @PiepMGI I agree with you in your posting, especially your first sentence.

There needs to be an age verified entry point to these pages to filter out the young.

:)

In T85234#1124246, @z80cpu wrote:

I can add what I have seen. I am an admin on Epoch/Exile servers. I spawn in ANY western clothing, it will spawn in and I can put it on. BUT, once I log-out via proper saving methods and I come RIGHT BACK IN, that clothing does NOT exist!

BUT, if i spawn in EASTERN clothes, that stays! It appears to be an issue with western and i THINK independent gear as well.

I can replicate this all day long - fails (or works ) every time.

:)

common, cool down,

just give us details

thx
Cyb

I also have this issue for long time.

Mission Play: Altis Life Vanilla ==> https://github.com/AsYetUntitled/Framework
Without any respawn
Only cothing disapear (Backpack, headgear is showing)
Signature check is on

Player with uniform see uniform and texture

Other player see him naked (just like he remove uniform)

I guess that happen with: U_C_Poor_2
But i already see this with lot of different uniform.

Screenshoot from bug
https://i.imgur.com/ClWcdPn.jpg

Do this, play vanilla with NO ADD-ONS WHAT SO EVER, and see if it happens!

I bet it WILL NOT HAPPEN!

Bohemia is NOT in the business of fixing other author's mistakes.

As I said before, epoch USED TO HAVE THIS ISSUE - NO MORE! And this was YEARS AGO TOO!

If it screws up in vanilla ARMA, it is Bohemia's fault and problem to correct

If it screws up with a MOD BEING INSTALLED, it is upon the MOD's AUTHOR to fix the issue. If it is an issue with ARMA, THEY are to notify Bohemia.

That is IT!

And guess what, from what I have seen, this issue, AS OF NOW, is ONLY RELATED TO THE 'LIFE' MOD! Does not happen in the 6 people playing epoch currently, or the thousands who play Exile. How do you explain that? Well???

Hmmmm....it takes a 'lot of thinking' who maybe at fault here! 100+ mods and NO ONE has this issue BUT ONE MOD!

;)

Arma start witouth any mod (Altis Life Vanilla doesn't need it)

Epoch, Exile, some of Altis Life use mod but here is a Arma 3 Standalone (With DLC Tanoa)

Maybe the mistake come from script (MPMissions) and BI can't give help for missions but .... how can we run a Arma 3 Vanilla Mission with Multiplayer and ability to use and switch clothing to check if it's only happen in Altis Life mission (and some of small mission i make myself like Tower Defense and Kind of "KOTH") ?

Sorry for my poor english.

Extra info about this "Kind" of bug.

When my friend get this uniform buged if he put it down i can't take it only him can.

Altis Life Vanilla use some of "setObjectTextureGlobal" but that doesn't have any effect of which people can take or not cloths.

Also in vanilla altis life, civilian side doesn't use setObjectTextureGlobal only west side.

Thanks for reading.

In T85234#1869309, @Nark0t1k wrote:

Arma start witouth any mod (Altis Life Vanilla doesn't need it)

Epoch, Exile, some of Altis Life use mod but here is a Arma 3 Standalone (With DLC Tanoa)

Maybe the mistake come from script (MPMissions) and BI can't give help for missions but .... how can we run a Arma 3 Vanilla Mission with Multiplayer and ability to use and switch clothing to check if it's only happen in Altis Life mission (and some of small mission i make myself like Tower Defense and Kind of "KOTH") ?

Sorry for my poor english.

Extra info about this "Kind" of bug.

When my friend get this uniform buged if he put it down i can't take it only him can.

Altis Life Vanilla use some of "setObjectTextureGlobal" but that doesn't have any effect of which people can take or not cloths.

Also in vanilla altis life, civilian side doesn't use setObjectTextureGlobal only west side.

Thanks for reading.

WHAT DO YOU THINK AN ADD-ON IS?!?!?!?!!? It is ANYTHING that is ADDED to the DEFAULT GAME! PERIOD!

See: https://github.com/AsYetUntitled/Framework/wiki/Setup-Server

"Before starting, you should have both life_server and Altis_Life.Altis packaged as a pbo." PBO = ADD-ON
"Download extDB3 from Torndeco's Bitbucket repository" = ADD-ON AND NOT SUPPORTED BY BOHEMIA! extDB2 IS supported, NOT extDB3!
"MySQL Server / MariaDB Server (MariaDB is recommended)" = ADD-ON
"After this, copy the life_server.pbo to @life_server > Addons folder and the Altis_Life.Altis.pbo to MPMissions folder." = ADD-ONS AGAIN!!!!

You're not too bright (in regards to ARMA or a Life server) are you?

I NOW believe I have identified the REAL ISSUE... and for those who can 'read between the lines', I think you will see the real reason too!

:)

All these thing are server side.

I will start Altis Life without server mod(extdb) (can work but nothing save to db) to see if we get the same probleme.

EDIT:
"
Addons folder and the Altis_Life.Altis.pbo to MPMissions folder." = ADD-ONS AGAIN!!!!
"

If a mission is a addons, Bi can give us help for nothing ... xD Everything in arma is mission... Vanilla mission ==> Addons then no help..

I also ask you how to play arma 3 vanilla with multiplayer and possibility to switch clothes...

If i create a small mission without anything exect this ... that a addons then no help ... ok but how to test this then?

EDIT:
If we can't make this in Arma 3 Vanilla MP mission we can't test ...

BI give us the possibility to create missions, but if we found any bug (this bug is repported with a lot of mission, epoch, exile, altis, KOTH,....) that our fault ^^?

Easy way but ok :)

AGAIN LOAD ONLY ARMA - NOTHING ELSE!!!!!!

Do I have to COPY MY STUFF AGAIN?!?!?!?!!?!?!

Altis Life Server REQUIRES:

"Before starting, you should have both life_server and Altis_Life.Altis packaged as a pbo." PBO = ADD-ON
"Download extDB3 from Torndeco's Bitbucket repository" = ADD-ON AND NOT SUPPORTED BY BOHEMIA! extDB2 IS supported, NOT extDB3!
"MySQL Server / MariaDB Server (MariaDB is recommended)" = ADD-ON
"After this, copy the life_server.pbo to @life_server > Addons folder and the Altis_Life.Altis.pbo to MPMissions folder." = ADD-ONS AGAIN!!!!

:(

Ok i launch arma, nothing else

One more time

"
"Before starting, you should have both life_server and Altis_Life.Altis packaged as a pbo." PBO = ADD-ON
"Download extDB3 from Torndeco's Bitbucket repository" = ADD-ON AND NOT SUPPORTED BY BOHEMIA! extDB2 IS supported, NOT extDB3!
"MySQL Server / MariaDB Server (MariaDB is recommended)" = ADD-ON
"After this, copy the life_server.pbo to @life_server > Addons folder and the Altis_Life.Altis.pbo to MPMissions folder." = ADD-ONS AGAIN!!!!
"

Is server side, all that stuff is on the server side part, not client (client = my).

I don't START server, i start Arma 3, and i'm now in the main menu.

Here is RPT file showing you NO ANYTHING exept arma is running...
https://i.imgur.com/QWpO4w3.png
https://i.imgur.com/1EKpZL6.png

Where do i need to go to play with friend, get some cloths and wait to see if bug happen?

I'm not talking about altis life here, i'm just talking about Arma 3 Vanilla.

I can't find a way to play arma 3 vanilla in multiplayer and taking cloths ...

Singleplayer => Bug happen in multiplayer only
Multi player server list => That custom mission, addons then i can't
Multi player Vanilla mission from BI => They are no any mission where you can take different cloths to test it.

Pls keep calms, take the time to read before starting writing...

Ummm...I think you need to UNDERSTAND ENGLISH before commenting.

Using SOME words in CAPS is termed EMPHASIS. ALL words in CAPS is considered yelling.

"...People have long used capital letters to set text apart and convey its importance, but upper case letters haven’t always signified loudness..."

See: https://newrepublic.com/article/117390/netiquette-capitalization-how-caps-became-code-yelling

Or this: "...All caps" may be used for emphasis (for a word or phrase)..."

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_caps

So, get your FACTS STRAIGHT before you plan to accuse someone! ;)

You need to turn off your computer. You have NO CLUE as to what you're doing.

You can not put an enemy soldier on the map, then you about 100m away, then KILL THE ENEMY and then TAKE HIS CLOTHES????

You can not do that? REALLY????

Sad...REAL sad...

;)

Lol ... guys what are you doing here?

Just get away if you can give help and just copy/past same thing.

Im talking about arma vanilla showing your screenshoot from rpt and you keep spamîg blablabla addons blablabla addons xD

That crazy guys you just keep you eyes close and now you just telling me hey guys you english is so bad dont use caps lock like i did i

Well, i don’t have the time to feed a troll, i’m just here to give feedback, maybe the feedback site from bohemia isn’t the good place

See you kid

I sure am! I am so mentally ill, that I know how to examine ARMA issues, speak proper English, as well as provide evidence for my claims.

Now, what can we say about you @Azehh ?

That you practice NAME CALLING. Which is typically reserved for children and the 'mentally challenged'. For they can not attack the argument/point, so they attack the speaker. How mature you are! Woo hoo! I bet you feel so big now!

This 'tactic' is better known as "argumentum ad hominem".

See:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_hominem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_calling

'Grow up' little one and quit your name calling.

Act like a big boy!

:)

Hm, i saw it last week.
a friend quit his Arsenal challenge, and we say:
"serious? Wanne play in underwear?"
He says: "no i have a uniform present!"
Some players see it, some not?

This tells me, even we play with mods a few things:

It can depend on packet loss?
It can depend on the joining time of a player... (after the "victim" or before).

if he drop his uniform, we all see it laying on the ground!
if he pick it up again, we all see, he wear it!

This tells me, that it must be packet loss, or an "arsenalopen/close" EH of some Mod in connection with the joining time of the player who dont see the uniform.

both is possible...?

Have you a chance to play in LAN environment and take a look at this error?
I know that RHS uses arsenal EH (bad coded by the way^^).
Any other mod known?

Greetz
Cyb

i see it everyday . When players switch seat of a vehicle (Modded Version)

I hope this issue get fixed. It should be a priority. It seems to happen when entering and or exiting vehicles. The player who is victim to the issue is completely unaware as on their client they are fully dressed however on other peoples clients they're completely undressed. This has the unwanted effect of letting people kill you much quicker with weapons they really shouldn't be able to kill you with quickly because their client believes you have no armour.

In T85234#1833026, @reekoj wrote:

still happening on latest branch

14/06/2021 - still happening on latest branch

Damned ... 2 year later i'm so suprised to received a email telling my this bug isn't fixed yet...

@Nark0t1k: I have reported this in 2015 - any questions? :D

Ahahha damned that why i see some dev make script that save stuff, clean stuff, get back stuff each time they go in or out from a vehicle ahahah

Look lile the best way to fix this

Yeah, this will never be addressed. Maybe Arma 4 will have this issue solved. In 2038?

STEPS TO REPRODUCE

Unfortunately none. There is no reliable way to reproduce that.

Without minimal repro there is very little chance of fixing it unless it gets fixed because some other issue is getting fixed and it was somehow connected.

Not sure if this helps but when I ran a Altis Life server we had this issue for multiple years and we called it the "nexus bug" because the bug was introduced with/or close to the nexus update. A players gear would become invisible for all other players except for themselves, and if I recall correctly this issue occurred when a player switched seats in a vehicle (I don't remember if there has to be other players in the vehicle or not, and the issue didn't always happen so there has to be some other contributing factor). We ended up adding a button that "refreshed" the players gear as a temporary fix while waiting for an official fix. "player setUnitLoadout (getUnitLoadout player);".

In T85234#2201955, @gardonw wrote:

Not sure if this helps but when I ran a Altis Life server we had this issue for multiple years and we called it the "nexus bug" because the bug was introduced with/or close to the nexus update. A players gear would become invisible for all other players except for themselves, and if I recall correctly this issue occurred when a player switched seats in a vehicle (I don't remember if there has to be other players in the vehicle or not, and the issue didn't always happen so there has to be some other contributing factor). We ended up adding a button that "refreshed" the players gear as a temporary fix while waiting for an official fix. "player setUnitLoadout (getUnitLoadout player);".

Was it just uniform or vest too?

It was vest and uniform. Backpack and headgear was not effected.

Can confirm backpack and headgear is never affected, only Uniform and Vest.

still happening, mostly when switching seats in vehicle via mousewheel