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Description

Since the patch to 1.54 (also including hotfix), it sometimes happens that uniforms disappear. The weird thing is, that you can see your soldier wearing a uniform but your uniform slot is empty. Other players, but you, see you wearing underwear.

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Legacy ID
3078896756
Severity
None
Resolution
Open
Reproducibility
Sometimes
Category
Multiplayer
Steps To Reproduce

Unfortunately none. There is no reliable way to reproduce that.

Additional Information

Happens in all mods, including mission-only modifications like KOTH.

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Yup same issue here.

eraser1 added a subscriber: eraser1.May 8 2016, 1:14 PM

Related screenshot:
http://puu.sh/lKf69/6e9e09a48e.jpg

(screenshot is not by me)

PiepMGI added a subscriber: PiepMGI.May 8 2016, 1:14 PM

Seen also on hosted server for light scenarios. It seems some events like pop-up tasks , uniforms refresh after respawn and so on are more deeply scheduled, then take time to be displayed/broadcasted.

related: http://feedback.arma3.com/view.php?id=26798 ?

Zarbon added a subscriber: Zarbon.May 8 2016, 1:14 PM
Zarbon added a comment.Dec 7 2015, 9:10 AM

Same issue here.

splin added a subscriber: splin.May 8 2016, 1:14 PM
splin added a comment.Dec 7 2015, 12:48 PM

It seems that it happens when the uniform was taken from dead body.

"It seems that it happens when the uniform was taken from dead body."

I experienced that using bis_fnc_saveInventory then bis_fnc_loadInventory after respawn. Uniform is not "physically" taken from a corpse but its type saved/loaded in a missionnameSpace variable.

Eichi added a subscriber: Eichi.May 8 2016, 1:14 PM
Eichi added a comment.Dec 7 2015, 6:09 PM

Check the screenshots. Its wearing a uniform that does not even exist in the game.

I have never seen this uniform before and searched for it in the virtual arsenal afterwards. Its not there.

What. The. Hell?

Just of fun:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_vauMVfZog
This video is 9 months old and issued from script, not actual bug.

He-Man added a subscriber: He-Man.May 8 2016, 1:14 PM
He-Man added a comment.Dec 9 2015, 1:07 AM

Same here in Epoch Mod with Arma Uniform like full ghilli!

i hope this can get fixed asap :/

Happened to me yesterday in Wasteland Altis - no mods

Same here, default gear, default server. Buddy is naked to me, he had a uniform for him.

Eichi added a comment.Dec 9 2015, 9:38 PM

Not sure if that is related to this ticket here, but I think so:

https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21AFmXoKqBMk1o7Lk&cid=F2298CFD9354AC3E&id=F2298CFD9354AC3E%21123&parId=root&o=OneUp

Players just sent me this.

This bug seems to occur when players are riding in vehicles. Stay on foot, and there's no issue. Ride in or drive a vehicle, and your uniform/vest may disappear from the POV of other players.

sLaiNe added a subscriber: sLaiNe.May 8 2016, 1:14 PM

Unbelievable that this error was still not resolved. What's the matter with you? Why is something not previously tested before it goes out as an update? Take heed that you fixed that, that's embarrassing!

still happening, is no1 gonna look into this

havena added a subscriber: havena.May 8 2016, 1:14 PM

same here, but player are already visible but in underwear

ispan55 added a subscriber: ispan55.May 8 2016, 1:14 PM

Uniforms disappear
patch 1.54 it sometimes happens that uniforms disappear.
:(

I so understand waiting fix 1.54

As a few people have said already. It mainly happens to me and my group after we have taken cloths off a body, 5 minutes later when we get to the trader we are in our underpants. So I'm guessing it has something to do with getting in and out of a vehicle. But I might add also, it isn't just cloths, it happens to our rigs/vests also. So most of the time when we log back in the next day and no one has said the previous day 'you naked' both our cloths and rigs are gone along with the gear.
Hope this helps!

It's just the most visible part of an iceberg. Global commands are broken for finding textures, sounds in custom paths, depending on host/client status and the way used to broadcast the data (global, remoteExec).
Hard work to make it all this stuff in good order but BI should communicate about that.

r0fus added a subscriber: r0fus.May 8 2016, 1:14 PM
r0fus added a comment.Jan 19 2016, 4:00 PM

Happened a few times on our server as well. Don't have to interact with vehicles for it to happen.
With me it happened as I was looting my own body after being killed by AI. My weapon had disappeared (took me about 10 min to get back) but I could pick up my clothes as normal and to me it looked like everything was there. My co-players on the other hand saw me in underwear...
Naturally after restart everything was gone and I hadn't been in a vehicle since dying.

Pear78 added a subscriber: Pear78.May 8 2016, 1:14 PM

have seen this occur on modded and on wasteland servers.

O.P.: 2015-12-05 15:55 shameeee, but im not surprised any more.

Iceman added a subscriber: Iceman.May 8 2016, 1:14 PM

Hello,
we are working on extensive low level changes to MP inventory which should resolved issues such as this one. It's not ready, though, and will require some more time. Thank you for your patience.

In wasteland you can kill your friend and after revive the suite will appear again. (simple refresh)

It has something to do, that the person who owned the suite died and he's stuff is being cleaned by the cleanup script. So it will clean it from your alive character, as you stole it from him.

ALT+F4 is a way to replicate it. way to bypass is for Sp save multiple times with inventory open for MP; press ESC 5 times with a waiting time of 3 minutes per ESC.

It does suck losing great gear

z80cpu added a subscriber: z80cpu.May 8 2016, 1:14 PM

I can add what I have seen. I am an admin on Epoch/Exile servers. I spawn in ANY western clothing, it will spawn in and I can put it on. BUT, once I log-out via proper saving methods and I come RIGHT BACK IN, that clothing does NOT exist!

BUT, if i spawn in EASTERN clothes, that stays! It appears to be an issue with western and i THINK independent gear as well.

I can replicate this all day long - fails (or works ) every time.

:)

It seems to happen if you pick up gear from a dead player. On your screen you still see your gear but others see you in your underwear. Also if you relog, you will lose the uniform and vest including everything in it.

Any ETA on a fix or a way to minimize the chance?

I have same problem in Exile mod every time join in server lost vest and uniform this things buy in trader in safe zone.

We are in August and the issue is still here.
Changing seat position in a vehicle seems to be the cause of the issue.

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Pskyco added a subscriber: Pskyco.Nov 8 2016, 6:05 PM
Gill077 added a subscriber: Gill077.Nov 2 2017, 3:57 PM

182/5000
When I'm in the vehicle and changing places in the vehicle, I'm suddenly naked, even though I'm wearing the uniform. Only a relog fixes the problem. Getting dressed does not help.

oukej added a subscriber: oukej.Jun 21 2018, 10:56 PM
ZrMz_x added a subscriber: ZrMz_x.Jul 22 2018, 2:36 AM

Is this ever going to get fixed? This report was made on "Dec 5 2015" and still hasn't been fixed.....

Caused by changing seats in a vehicle. There, now you have a very specific thing to investigate, get to work ;)

Azeh added a subscriber: Azeh.Aug 1 2018, 3:58 PM

So... uhh... maybe one day?

Had similar phenomenons since 1.84 but not before.

(uniform is visible in inventory and on body, but not for other clients)

grrrr also happens on spawned AI if they spawned on clients in dedicated environment.... i hate arma updates!

I can also vouch that this sometimes happens where uniforms disappear randomly. Sometimes its getting in and out of vehicles, sometimes its when someone is in an arsenal, and sometimes its when someone get something in their inventory via a scripted method such as an exile shop.

Alexis_74 added a comment.EditedDec 5 2018, 6:36 AM

in 1.86 its still present

I confirm it's still present on 1.88. It's happened to me twice before in previous versions, and I just had it happen again. The previous comments might be on to something. I was also in a vehicle with other players and not doing anything when they said my clothes and vest disappeared. I could still see them. 5 minutes before it happened, I had switched from driver to passenger, in case it has anything to do with it. But that was 5 minutes before...

reekoj added a subscriber: reekoj.Mar 7 2019, 1:11 PM

still happening on latest branch

its still present

Still present in the latest arma patch, ridiculous how this has not been fixed. This issue leads to armor & uniforms disappearing on other clients therefore damage is incorrect. Come on, sort this out!

oukej added a comment.Thu, Apr 4, 10:28 AM

Sadly we were unable to find the cause of the issue. If you've got a solid repro please share it with us. I am sorry about this.

Are you joking? All you need to do is join a multiplayer server and you will get the issue within 5 minutes. I believe a way of producing the issue is to switch seats in a vehicle on a server. Keep in mind, you can’t tell if the issue has happened to you, other players will see no clothing on whilst you see all your clothing on.

I'll say it again, although I doubt you care. One proven way to reproduce this is entering a vehicle and switching seats. It's very important to note that the issue doesn't appear immediately but a while after.

If you can't fix the bug, rewrite the way uniforms/vests are displayed as this is a major issue. Players experiencing the bug will have no armor/vest displayed meaning they have no ballistic protection.

It's unbelievable how long this has been an issue.

oukej added a comment.Thu, Apr 4, 1:48 PM

Sadly joining any multiplayer scenario isn't usable for debugging. We need the bug isolated ideally in a non cluttered environment.

z80cpu added a comment.Thu, Apr 4, 7:11 PM

What was stated about a 'clean environment' is true. I know with this being a MP issue, this makes it hard. What I would suggest is for you to RECORD THE VIDEO of this happening, also include the mods used as well as the version of these. This will be much better in helping them 'run this down'. Also you could create a local server and try to see if it works. No mods, just default ARMA gear. If it is in fact an issue with ARMA, you should see it happening there as well.

ARMA can be 'weird' at times. For example, I run 161 mods for SP ARMA. Everything works but one thing - The right mirror on the Strider is missing (it looks like the glass was removed). Left is just fine. But when I run default ARMA, the mirrors are there.

If this an error in ARMA, you would think it would show up in a Local server arrangement.

Personally, I have not seen this issue in a long time. This makes me think there is a 'bad mod' being used. Yes, there was a time when this would happen, and you did not have to 'wait', it was immediately.

:)

Azeh added a comment.Thu, Apr 4, 9:18 PM

Personally, I have not seen this issue in a long time. This makes me think there is a 'bad mod' being used. Yes, there was a time when this would happen, and you did not have to 'wait', it was immediately.

It definitely happens without mods too.

@Azeh - Then I would suggest you tell the Devs how it happens then. Everybody else is saying it happens on a MP server, and not to say this problem does not exist, I have never seen a 'default' ARMA server. This would exclude all the missions Bohemia has added for they are using scripts to accomplish that type of game play.

Also as I stated; RECORD IT.

As an admin/owner of my Exile server, I have not seen this issue. Then again, I do not 'swap seats' all the time either, but the times I did, nothing happened. And no one has reported such either in years.

Again, I have not seen it. I am NOT saying that it does exist. I have not seen nor heard of this error in 3+ years.

As an example, there are 2 commands to use to 'outfit' youself: AddUniform and ForceAddUniform.

AddUniform: Create a new uniform and try to link it into uniform slot (given uniform has to be supported by allowedUniforms list of target soldier). To check if uniform is allowed use isUniformAllowed and to force add incompatible uniform use forceAddUniform

WE (the readers) do not know which commands are being used and there are at least 5 commands for 'uniform'. We also have no idea if those script were even written correctly too. All we know is we have a uniform issue that appears can not be reproduced and shows up randomly.

Career wise, I am a Digital Tech and I perform repairs on computers, printers, and laptops. Sometimes even board level repairs. If you came to me and said you computer reboots and I take it and set ot up for 48 hours and nothing ever happened, you would be getting your computer back. I can not fix what I do not see. No one can.

As a programmer (hobby) for decades no one has provided what is really needed to solve this issue, if it really is an issue:

  • No mods being used listed
  • No versions of the mods being used
  • No video

It is like u you being robbed and you call the police. They come by and ask you what happened. All you say is 'My stuff got stolen' and nothing else. Makes almost impossible for the police to solve.

I do not dispute what others are seeing, like Bohemia, I have not witnessed myself. They as I, can not fix what you can not see. Yes, at one time I also saw it. Not anymore.

My fellow ARMA brothers and sisters: Bohemia needs real and factual evidence of what has transpired. Not that 'it does not work'.

I still stand by my 'theory' that it is being caused by a 'funky' mod. This is based off my 'mirror' issue and the fact that I personally have not seen this in years on a KOTH, Epoch, and Exile servers.

:)

CHIMERACyborg added a comment.EditedSat, Apr 6, 1:16 AM

This is old, never seen again. Must have to do with package loss or netcode. seem fixed.
i remember that the issue goes along with spawned AI that was indep or east and was forced to join groups of an other side. green an red units in one group and those who are not at the side of the group wearing underwear.
if you have this issue, check your AI spawn scripts.
AI can be created in a wrong way.
Createunit and alternative syntax.
Check this first!
i remember that i have change my code and i never had this issiue again

Digitals added a comment.EditedSat, Apr 6, 1:31 AM

This is old, never seen again. Must have to do with package loss or netcode. seem fixed.
i remember that the issue goes along with spawned AI that was indep or east and was forced to join groups of an other side. green an red units in one group and those who are not at the side of the group wearing underwear.
if you have this issue, check your AI spawn scripts.
AI can be created in a wrong way.
Createunit and alternative syntax.
Check this first!
i remember that i have change my code and i never had this issiue again

This is not fixed. It’s happening on latest arma patch to players not AI. We are not running any mods, using complete vanilla arma3 and this issue occurs daily to our players. Can you stop spreading shit.

CHIMERACyborg added a comment.EditedWed, Apr 10, 4:44 PM

This is not fixed. It’s happening on latest arma patch to players not AI. We are not running any mods, using complete vanilla arma3 and this issue occurs daily to our players. Can you stop spreading shit.

is it scenario depending?
what mission do you host?
after respawn? or during gameplay?
only uniform or complete naked?
only players with high ping or specific players or random?
signaturecheck on or off?

as i sayed, i remember this problems around ~1.74, but i changed the syntax of my ai spawn scripts...
since that time i do not recognize this issiue any longer.
greetz Cyb

@Digitals - Spreading BS? You mean like YOU DO??? "It does not work - Fix it!" That is the extent of your 'request'.

I AGREE with @CHIMERACyborg with what he said. He said pretty much what I said too.

Heaven forbid is some crappy mod you're using! I also noticed:

ZERO Video
ZERO mods and version being used
ZERO links to download your mission
ZERO ANYTHING except 'it does not work'

A reaction I would expect from someone under the age of 13 years old.

@Digitals , sorry. It is YOU who is spreading BS!

;)

Cattegun added a comment.EditedThu, Apr 11, 12:08 AM

Do you people bother reading about the issue?
THIS DOES NOT INVOLVE AI.
Uniform+vest is affected. Headgear and backpack is not.
NO MODS HAVE TO BE PRESENT FOR THIS TO OCCUR. You can flame digital all you want @z80cpu but you didn't bother to actually read what he said. Vanilla Arma. No mods. No AI. PLAYERS are affected. Agree with whomever you want, its still wrong.

The bug occurres during gameplay. Death will reset the player and the bug will stop.

The reason for lack of video is that you dont know if you are experiencing the bug or not. THE PLAYER WILL APPEAR NORMAL FOR ONESELF, BUT FOR OTHERS YOU WILL LACK UNIFORM AND VEST.

Did I clear up the basics? Dont comment useless shit that adds no input whatsoever. The only reason the bug report was made, is because us players want it fixed. Its a major issue for multiplayer infantry combat, hell even just aesthetics.

I lack the tools to give any other accurate information sadly, but I know some people have found a workaround that resets the clothing. Those people should help clarify the bug

PiepMGI added a comment.EditedThu, Apr 11, 7:27 PM

Apart: You should definitely say what is your mission game, give a link or upload a scenario.... This way, people will not treat you as kid and perhaps will focus on the best parts of description:

It seems to happen if you pick up gear from a dead player. On your screen you still see your gear but others see you in your underwear. Also if you relog, you will lose the uniform and vest including everything in it.
I was also in a vehicle with other players and not doing anything when they said my clothes and vest disappeared. I could still see them. 5 minutes before it happened, I had switched from driver to passenger, in case it has anything to do with it.
One proven way to reproduce this is entering a vehicle and switching seats. It's very important to note that the issue doesn't appear immediately but a while after.

At this stage, there are too many unknown parameters, and I guess such things can occur independently from scenarii and mods.
That looks like a "memory overflow" (I would not be flamed using the wrong word), by a command/function registering the loadout data for switching seats/entering vehicle, then flushing that few minutes later.
Perhaps a JIP run some code, meanwhile, and leads to an unwanted case/loop/network comm...
I'm not a dev but I can't see how to fix that without any deep searches in what could impact the uniform + vest, without impacting backpack+headgear.
I remember a time when opening the arsenal will eject you from a vehicle...

Clearly, it seems that BI can't afford time, searching in past modifications, mobilizing devs for a common diagnostic, starting with few tracks like I did.
On the other hand, arguing there is no reproducible scenario is just an alternate way to close the topic.

@Cattegun - Please show me my post where I said it was AI ONLY? I ALWAYS said it happened to HUMAN PLAYERS...till it was FIXED! And you wish to claim I can not read? hahahahahahahahaaha

And you say it is not fixed? Where is your PROOF? Your EVIDENCE? This is pretty much what @PiepMGI has stated as well.

All I 'see' is you WHINING WITH NO EVIDENCE OR PROOF OF SUCH!

And @PiepMGI I agree with you in your posting, especially your first sentence.

There needs to be an age verified entry point to these pages to filter out the young.

:)

I can add what I have seen. I am an admin on Epoch/Exile servers. I spawn in ANY western clothing, it will spawn in and I can put it on. BUT, once I log-out via proper saving methods and I come RIGHT BACK IN, that clothing does NOT exist!

BUT, if i spawn in EASTERN clothes, that stays! It appears to be an issue with western and i THINK independent gear as well.

I can replicate this all day long - fails (or works ) every time.

:)

common, cool down,

just give us details

thx
Cyb