There is no M4 and no H&K 416 assault rifle in game unless you mod. I know this is based in 2035,but the MX (ACR) M4, H&K 416, and the m320 Sniper rifle (CheyTac M200 Intervention) are all present day weapons but the m4 and 416 are not in game (yet).
Currently those weapons are only available via modding. {F20641} {F20642} {F20643} {F20644}
Only available by Mods
And why does it need one of those rifles? As you said you can mod it in. There are already 3 (or even more) mods that have M4s.
Because all of them had different attachments. In Arma 3 there is a modular system for attachments.
Downvoted-No it doesn't, it's future warfare... And there is a good mod for it, if you want M4, donwload them. But the idea with more weapons is good.
Not needed, mods will do that.
@GeneralScott
ArmA2 didn't have that many weapons. OA, BAF, PMC, ACR contributed a lot to the total amount.
I feel that the mentioned rifles would be good to include for resistance groups, similar to the use of the AK platform for modern insurgents. The AR-15 platform could be used as outdated but usable weapons to somewhat poorly armed combatants. Just my 2 cents
ShiftyCz You say its future warfare but the game uses all present day weapons lol ????
You can say mods can do that but we should not have to mod if, if any thing bring over the ArmA 2 weapons and update them for the weapon modifying which surely would not be that hard to do and it would be good if an insurgent faction or faction which is meant to be poor or something to have them using old weaponry. Like the Takistani's using Lee Enfields, etc.
Already tried the FHQ pack it was ok but my main reason for not liking m4 mods is because the detail of the weapon is way low and it severely limits the number of servers you can join because if the server doesn't allow that particular mod then your screwed and have to find a different one possibly with less people or empty. Its one big headache.
John, it's minimaly 10 yrs forward, that means it's future. And i haven't seen there any nowadays used Weapon excluding weapon called MK20 (f2000) but in Arma green army using older gear so that means it's older weapon too... and for example have you ever seen UH80? have you ever seen MX weapon? And what about glasses (i mean those tactical), they aren't used now (Ok, they are but, only in testing and maybe some SFs but not regular soldier.
Here's the MX: http://www.bushmaster.com/acr/#/intro
Here's the UH-80:https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTMDBqHwYfU06Z9WWt8hx_Ija0zo4FnZ9Zl_XiR_qhYoevVQeEK
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRhs9R3uuSXLM15RMppI5BlUKz9QqVnbk5v8PZ0IPMXWF0lzKpQ
But AFAIK they're not in widespread use.
The FHQ pack is pretty good and it had animated fire selectors right off the bat. And all of us would want our own personal favorite weapons to be compatible, why should m4 be the special one, id rather have FN FAL or G3A3 to provide more visual variety, since MX looks close to a spinoff of M4/scar in silhuete anyway.
Armaverse, the old ARs were phased out because Blufor military came to conclusion that the M4 sucks. Seriously, give it a rest. BI won't put a weapon in the game simply because it's someone's favourite. If it's in the game then as a antiquity or collectors item (gold M4A1 anyone?).
The MX IN REAL LIFE is an ACR/XCR that was just RENAMED its the same design only difference is the ACR's standard round is 6.8mm instead of 6.5mm. UH80 is based off the choppers used in the Bin Laden raid.(Based off means the design was taken from the actual chopper used which were what appeared to be two Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawks, heavily modified for quieter operations and employing stealth technology to be less visible to radar.)There again arma 3 just takes modern day weapons/vehicles and rename them to avoid licensing issues which means same PRESENT DAY weaponry in a game based on the year 2035. I have 6 years military experience to back up my claim and many links to the actual REAL LIFE WEAPONS.
And this post isn't just for the m4 I too would like a better variety of weapons/ assault rifles. Not just the m4 and 416 Should have been more specific sorry
416/417 are sleek, modern (at present time) weapons which well can see 30+ year service as M16/M14 did... I vote up for these two exclusively.
Just look at the new ACP C2 It is a 1911 variant, based on a combination of a variety of models, namely the Kimber Custom Covert II. The first company to make one was Colt. Designed in 1905 by John Browning and it was adopted by the US Army in 1911, therefore the designation M1911. Same exact weapon just renamed!! So all the people saying that this game is based on future weaponry why is a pistol that originated in 1905 and still used today by many spec ops units in this game and the M4 Assault rifle or the H&K 416/417 or the H&K G36 and many other present day weapons not ?
Yea ACP is 1911 ok, acr ok my bad, but ghosthawks and a lot of things are in army, ok, but in Arma, they are presented as commonly used, and that is not nowadays. And ok, I'm losing this argument, but i have one more thing... Basically, in editor there's year 2035 so I guess arma is from 2035...
what might be a good idea is to create an "ideal" M4 sort of rifle. maybe take the best elements of various that might be currently impractical in our time due to cost restraints and load them up on one fire arm. M4A5 anyone?
Wait, maybe put it with the greenarmy? Usually theyre a small underfunded resistance force in the Arma and Op Flashpoint games, so maybe itd make sense to give them some older tech like M4's?
ArmA is a mod platform like FlightSimulator or rFactor ect.
If something can be done well with a mod,why not.
Let BIS focus on some platform issue like improve overall FPS,Relistic wound system,Rail attachment system ect.which a 3rd-part mod can not done.
Iran already have M16.But Bull-pup version.)
On topic - can't say,that it would be good for 2035 year.IMO this is dinosaurus today.They stays since 1985 year(M16A2),in 1990 - just added rail on top(M16A4),didn't even talk about A1 and elder versions.
Another reason - since 10 years that I play games,almost every shooter have M16/M4 and AKs.This is an greatest ecxeption ever I seen. :)
IF we take Arma 3, at its core, to be based in 2035, then we will *most likely* have replaced the M4 (we being US), especially considering the effort that has gone into its replacement since the early 2000s (remember that XM8 POS?). There are several gaming groups that play Arma 3 Beta and don't like playing in 2035. That's fine by me, they have plenty of awesome mods for that ability. My group personally plays in the year 20XX, because we don't care and will use any in-game resource or mod that provides the most fun for us. Including a weapon that *should* be outdated by 2035 seems a waste of resources. Down voted.
Everyone down voting this doesn't seem to realize that this isn't just about the M4 but also the H&K 416 which in real life is actually probably going to be the standard issue assault rifle for the U.S. Army. Heckler & Koch are in contract talks with the U.S. Army as we speak. SO go ahead and down vote the M4 but don't down vote the 416 as its far superior to the m4.
Then why no SCAR,why no mk18,why no LSAT,why no XM109....
Tons of weapons that USArmy MIGHT use at 2035.
They totally can be done well with mods.
I kindly suggest, that you wait with such requests until the full game with it's myriads of weapons already prepared, comes out.
And I'm kindly just suggesting it be included with its ''myriads'' of weapons when the full game releases :)
I don't understand all the down votes. I'd rather have existing weapons over the fictional MX series.
The HK416 may be better than the M4 in many respects but it is also one of the weakest IC (Individual Carbine) candidates. Given that the US military cancelled the IC competition the notion that the HK416 will ever see US military issue is close to 0%.
It seems clear is that BHI is opting not to jump through hoops to get firearm identities licensed for ArmA3.
But I wouldn't worry; I'm sure that some resourceful fellows will eventually have a widely inclusive mod that will become standard fare for the ArmA3 community as ACE2 is for ArmA2. Given the aesthetic that ArmA3 is going for my opinion that the appearance of the HK416 as a vanilla gun would be somewhat... mundane? Just my opinion.
yeah let's just rely on modders, like w/ Skyrim, just release the game with problems and shortfalls and modders will fix everything, because that makes sense...
Mass closing ancient tickets with no activity for > 12 months; assume fixed or too trivial.
If this issue is still relevant in current dev build, please re-post.