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In the Arma3, it is impossible to play the underwater and swimming missions and enjoy it, I think it's a solid set of errors and not realistic details. This is just the main points that the player can see:

  1. GLITCH ON THE SURFACE OF THE WATER.

When player dive into deep of water, he can see a beautiful underwater atmosphere, but this feeling always spoiled, if player getting to the surface of the water! Near the surface of the depth ceases to have a color and all the objects under water look as if water does not exist! This fact spoils all the excellent work done for visualisation of underwater world! This is a very ugly, please fix it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-uXKFv6U7s

  1. DURRING SWIMMING THE HANDS OF SWIMMERS LOCATED ABOVE WATER SURFACE.

Animation of AI-swimmers looks wrong. It also refers of player-character.
Very often these swimmers at moving in the water, have an almost vertical position of body during swimming. In this case almost vertical position of a body looks stupid, because in this case, the hands of swimmers do movements above the water surface. Please change the rotation of the torso, approximately to the horizontal torso-position or change the animation, having lowered down his arms under water if swimmer moved in the water.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjZ4Zc7rYzQ
The player should not see it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdhXLihKgB4&feature=youtu.be
because the player will break the psyche. When I see this I want to cry!

  1. THE SWIMMING IN FIRST-PERSON VIEW IS BAD.

during the swimming, the torso and hands of the player looks as if above the water surface, but not under water.
during the swimming, the player cannot see water spray, foam, air bubbles under water.
during the swimming, the player cannot hear the sound of the splash of water.
during the swimming on the back, the diver capable swim too fast.

Examples:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn_EifAD0bQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMUNsEnEoS8

  1. UNDER-WATER MOVING OF DIVERS LOOKS NOT REALISTIC.

Almost all diving animations of divers must be more slow, but we see too quickly moving. The player should feel the resistance of water, like in real life, but the player do not feel that the action takes place under water.
Under-water, very often the player sees prone position of divers, when they stopped and not move. This stop-animation, under-water, should be excluded. In this position, the divers stop motion of legs. This is not realistic nonsense, because a diver cannot congeal in the prone position under water, without any movement. If the diver stops moving his feet, he must go on the bottom of the sea! Diver should not stop doing the legs movement. Never!

Examples of all this issues here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iRrIpwXfI4&feature=youtu.be

  1. UNDER WATER THE BLOOD DISAPPEARS.

The blood disappears under water for a few seconds. No clouds of blood.
Blood should not disappear. Must be a bloody cloud during long time.

  1. ANY DIVERS AT STARTING IN A SUBMARINE, WITHOUT UNDERWATER MASKS.

See image bellow.
This is stupid, because these divers would instantly choked!
Only if the diver comes out of the submarine and then comes back on it will be wearing a underwater mask. Please put the mask on all divers initially!

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Please, repair this issues, we also want to love underwater missions.
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Details

Legacy ID
2805874735
Severity
None
Resolution
Open
Reproducibility
Always
Category
Swimming and Diving
Steps To Reproduce
  1. Start Editor
  2. Place the players squad in the sea
  3. a) Only lower your head under water b) Use the command for bots to swim с) Swim yourself on the back or forward

Event Timeline

mickeymen edited Additional Information. (Show Details)
mickeymen set Category to Swimming and Diving.
mickeymen set Reproducibility to Always.
mickeymen set Severity to None.
mickeymen set Resolution to Open.
mickeymen set Legacy ID to 2805874735.May 7 2016, 7:12 PM

Only the first one really need a fix! And yes, it really deserve a fix, I think too!

"Only the first one really need a fix!"

My friend, any game consists of small parts and for this reason cannot be ignored them! All these points are interconnected!
Yes, the first point has the highest priority!
The second point is the lowest priority, but this does not mean that this point should be ignored! It's not just bots swim with his hands over the water! It also makes and the player's character!
Really need to fix all the items, because it is very easy to do.
And when, will be fixed all the details, the player will receive full satisfaction from water and underwater missions!

Not ignored, but as it is a small developpement team, the first one should really be fixed and the others one, if they have time one day, because there hundred of things like the first one! You know what I mean? :P

Of course I don't know exactly what you mean.
I'm sure if the developers would desire, then 2-3 paragraphs can be fixed in one day.

papy, "small dev team?" are you live in some other universe? not so small now! why do you say this, papy, you don't want fix this bugs?

The player should not see it,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdhXLihKgB4&feature=youtu.be

because the player will break the psyche!
When I see this I want to cry!
Teach soldiers how to swim, immediately!!!

Updated. Added point 4 and 5

Moderators, were are you???

amooei added a subscriber: amooei.May 7 2016, 7:12 PM

yes those really need to fix BI!

ignored in update 1.32,
ignored in update 1.34,
ignored in update 1.36,
ignored in update 1.38,
ignored in update 1.40.

The first one got fixed in VBS a couple of years ago so it's definitely doable but probably not a priority.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoHpMHW3IuY

I would definately like to see all of these bugs fixed, upvoted, for me as it is this breaks the immersion (pun intended).

Yes, but unfortunately all issues ignored a long time(

BIS, please fix finally this issues

PiepMGI added a subscriber: PiepMGI.May 7 2016, 7:12 PM

By the way, make easier to kill a floating infantry unit from shore. It's almost impossible even shooting in head! Bullets should penetrate water + swimming body!

Bohemia added a subscriber: Bohemia.May 7 2016, 7:12 PM

Yeah, tracked vehicles should also have swimming ability. They are just floating on the water, and swimming by the wind (All moded content like BMP, BMD). I dont know how it is possible after 2 years of development. Is it beta?! I lost lost my patience in this game

Its funny that ArmA 3 is way so way behind VBS2.

VBS and Arma are made by different companies

Is it possible to stop "updating" thibs thread every single day, I'm getting mails all the time and cannot unsubscribe...
Thanks

rabbit, a little patience my friend and your inconvenience will be behind)

@Benargee Yes they are. They should have improved more from ArmA 2 to Arma 3. There are very little improvements they made for Arma 3. Also considering that ArmA 2 & OA made a lot more sales(due to DayZ Mod). And those sales could have been used to help improve ArmA 3 further.

Edit:
Who down voted? Who in the world wouldn't want these to be fixed and improved?

"Who down voted?" only a madman, who hates water missions in A3.

Agree with Rabbit. Too many mails for this thread. How can I unsubscribe?

On top of the site > my account > pref...... (i have polish language)

Quote from 00132 Sitrep: "Work on the Visual Update package has continued as well. Staging its tweaked lighting, water reflections, improved underwater fog and fixed up parallax maps to Dev-Branch is set for a while after 1.54."

I really hope that glitch at the water surface (point1 from my list) will be finally fixed!
It is impossible to improve water reflections, to create improved underwater world and at the same time to leave this shameful glitch.