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Stable Version: 1.24.157448 - ADS Hold via binding Raise modifier and Toggle ADS doesn't work anymore
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Description

Hey,
I am raising a problem (at least for me) which basically got patched out without mentioning it in the notes. It seems like
that with this patch (1.24) you removed the possiblity to ADS with holding right click.

How it used to work:

I used to have both of the below mentioned set on Right Click:

  • Raise modifier
  • Toggle aiming down sights

This made it possible that as long as I hold Right Click that I am aiming through my current scope and as soon as I lift my finger from right click it lowers the weapon again.

What happens now:

When I hold right click right now I am going into hip fire stance and I need to additionally click middle mouse to trigger ADS.

So basically no matter if I bind Toggle aiming down sights or not it behaves the same way which seems to be very wrong.

Would it be possible to get the old functionality back, as this is really frustrating for me.

kind regards,
Chicken

Details

Severity
Tweak
Resolution
Open
Reproducibility
Always
Operating System
Windows 11 x64
Category
General
Steps To Reproduce
  1. Launch the game
  2. Go to OPTIONS
  3. Go to the CONTROLS Tab
  4. Go to CONFIGURE KEYBINDINGS
  5. Go to the COMBAT Tab
  6. Bind Raise modifier to Right Mouse Button
  7. Bind Toggle aiming down sights to Right Mouse Button
  8. Click Apply
  9. Hold down the Right Mouse Button

Current Result: My character lifting the weapon only into Hip Fire ADS Mode (1.24)
Expected Result: My character aims down sight through the currently attached scope (1.23)

Additional Information

Stable Version: 1.24.157448

Possible related issues:

CURRENT WORKAROUND PEOPLE ARE USING

  1. Go to your keybindings
  2. Got to "Combat Tab" and unbind "Toggle aiming down sights" completely
  3. Go to "Camera Tab" and bind your hold to ADS button to "Eye focus"
  4. In order not to lose your "Eye focus button" got to your "user user.dayz_preset_User.xml" (can be found in C:\Users\user\Documents\DayZ usually)
  5. Search for "UAZoomIn" and double bind it to your previous "Eye focus button" additionally, for me it looks like that:

    <input name="UAZoomIn"> <btn name="mBMiddle" /> <btn name="mBRight" /> </input>

NOTE: Only caveat is that you can't use your "Eye focus button" to switch to hip fire like you used before but rather need to kind of "doubleclick" it

Event Timeline

Geez changed the task status from New to Awaiting internal Testing.Feb 20 2024, 4:16 PM
ChickenDancer renamed this task from ADS Hold via binding Raise modifier and Toggle ADS doesn't work anymore to Stable Version: 1.24.157448 - ADS Hold via binding Raise modifier and Toggle ADS doesn't work anymore.Feb 20 2024, 4:33 PM
ChickenDancer edited Additional Information. (Show Details)
ChickenDancer edited Additional Information. (Show Details)Feb 20 2024, 5:19 PM

I experience same issue after the patch. I want to hold my button to aim down the sights.
This is from the config

<!-- I put RMB on ADS toggle. 'clickorhold' seems to be the best event I can map it to, to prevent unexpected ADS toggle -->

<input name="UAADSToggle">

<btn name="mBRight">
    <event name="clickorhold" />
</btn>

</input>

It's been working as intended yesterday, config didn't change.
Hold right mouse button to aim down the sight or the scope, if you stop holding, it goes back to normal stance. Right now it just raise the weapon without aiming.

Same with me, please give it a look, we just want to ads with right mouse button like any other game

I really don't like that only in DayZ there are restrictions with the ability to choose how I aim. I want to at least be able to choose to hold or receive only after pressing my gaze into the sight. Return it to how it was or if you want to do it better, then give the opportunity to set the results of holding and simple pressing. Those. so that I can select, if I hold, I can go straight into the sight. And so that this is a separate setting item. This will not affect the balance of the game in any way, since the animation of entering immediately into the sight is the same in time as if at the moment I just press the RMB once and release.
And so, to this day, I, as a person who has been playing Action all my life, am used to aiming by HOLD. You force an elephant to climb a tree and hope that the elephant will climb as easily as a monkey. Thank you. I love you anyway.

WindGG added a subscriber: WindGG.Feb 20 2024, 10:39 PM

Experiencing this same issue as well. I normally have "toggle aiming down sights" bound to right mouse button, while having the "raise modifier" double-bound to my mouse 5 button and right mouse button. This would allow me to hold down right click and immediately have my gun go from idle and straight past hip-fire into ADS, while using the mouse 5 button for hip-fire. It seems the "toggle aiming down sights" function in the combat settings no longer works at all. I've tried to bind multiple things to it while having nothing bound to the raise modifier, and nothing has worked. The only way to full ADS is to single click right mouse button, or whatever is bound to the "raise modifier", which honestly feels horrible and has already caused issues for me. Instead of "toggle aiming down sights" controlling ADS, the raise modifier now has assignment over everything. Not sure if this is an intended change or a bug but it ruins gunplay for me sadly.

ChickenDancer edited Additional Information. (Show Details)Feb 21 2024, 7:15 AM
ChickenDancer edited Additional Information. (Show Details)

ADS on hold won’t work no matter what I set the keybind to after 1.24 seems like others are having the same issue too kinda makes the game unplayable since I have to revert years of muscle memory so please fix

ChickenDancer edited Additional Information. (Show Details)Feb 21 2024, 10:08 AM
Geez changed the task status from Awaiting internal Testing to Acknowledged.Feb 21 2024, 1:59 PM
ChickenDancer edited Additional Information. (Show Details)Feb 21 2024, 9:26 PM

I've built up 30 years of FPS muscle memory and this patch killed it. :(

ChickenDancer edited Additional Information. (Show Details)Feb 22 2024, 9:34 AM
ChickenDancer edited Additional Information. (Show Details)Feb 22 2024, 5:49 PM
ChickenDancer edited Additional Information. (Show Details)

I had the same issue today. Everytime when I tried to ADS it kept unscoping me. We did some trouble shooting today and found out that when you have the same button assigned to "Eye Focus" and "Toggle ADS" (in my case both where set to right mouse button), the issue occurs. If you reassign a different key to "Toggle ADS", the problem will be solved.
Down below a twitch link, to the solution that also shows the problem:
https://clips.twitch.tv/CuteVastMonkeyNerfRedBlaster-DKzvBPHSk0QApZbD

If you hold RMB to ADS, check out my work around described here: https://feedback.bistudio.com/T179284

ChickenDancer added a comment.EditedFeb 23 2024, 8:13 AM

Thanks for adding that workaround here, will check it out, nevertheless they should fix it properly!

Edit: Okay I checked it out, so this kind of makes ADS Hold work, yes, but then I miss the functionality to eye focus on middle mouse except I go to the config files and change it like you advised.

ChickenDancer edited Additional Information. (Show Details)Feb 23 2024, 8:51 AM
ChickenDancer edited Additional Information. (Show Details)Feb 23 2024, 8:54 AM

Thanks for adding that workaround here, will check it out, nevertheless they should fix it properly!

Edit: Okay I checked it out, so this kind of makes ADS Hold work, yes, but then I miss the functionality to eye focus on middle mouse except I go to the config files and change it like you advised.

Also when you are on mele, it does zoom for a half second before it raise hands for fight or mele.

Unfortunately and fortunately, I don’t have time to wait for the developers to find time to solve this issue, so I offer my solution to the aiming problem. All we need is to set up simultaneous RMB + focus on the right mouse button. This can be done using different mouse programming programs. I'm very sorry, but not all mice have this and not everyone can understand how to do it. I did this thanks to macros, first I press RMB, and then MMB with an 8ms increment. MMB is the middle mouse button, keep that in mind. She got me thinking. Well, in general, that's all. I've seen the options described above, but they all work poorly. There, either you lose focus of vision, or you need to integrate it into the game code. Or you won’t be able to jump on the usual button. See the link for a diagram of my solution. https://imgur.com/a/JFTHmEw

And by the way, the developers hid my solution; they themselves don’t want us to use it)

any progress on solving this?

Thanks for adding that workaround here, will check it out, nevertheless they should fix it properly!

Edit: Okay I checked it out, so this kind of makes ADS Hold work, yes, but then I miss the functionality to eye focus on middle mouse except I go to the config files and change it like you advised.

Also when you are on melee, it does zoom for a half second before it raise hands for fight or mele.

I can add that it doesn't always ADS when pressing RMB, sometimes it just raise weapon for hipfire, then you have to unzoom and wait 1 sec and click RBM to go into ADS. Ofcourse this is still better than not having working hold ADS at all, but still bad to use.

MIDz added a subscriber: MIDz.Feb 24 2024, 6:07 PM
ChickenDancer edited Additional Information. (Show Details)Feb 25 2024, 11:12 AM
Geez closed this task as Resolved.Feb 27 2024, 12:11 PM
Geez claimed this task.
Geez added a subscriber: Geez.

Resolved for the stable 1.24 hotfix.

Resolved for the stable 1.24 hotfix.

has this update been implemented yet? Its still requires double tap shift for me to ADS

Geez added a comment.Feb 28 2024, 1:05 PM

Resolved for the stable 1.24 hotfix.

has this update been implemented yet? Its still requires double tap shift for me to ADS

The hotfix has not been released yet.

dear Geez

any idea as to a date the hotfix will come out?

dear Geez

any idea as to a date the hotfix will come out?

Today.

Well, not today, it's not listed in todays hotifx....

Well, not today, it's not listed in todays hotifx....

it fixed the bug for me. Thanks bohemia!

Why not implement it like PUBG does? There you can select between HOLD / TOOGLE for certain actions. Nevertheless the keybind. This works great for all playstyles.

Futro added a subscriber: Futro.May 26 2024, 1:19 AM

Please allow players to either hold or click to ADS! Almost all other actions in game do not have a forced toggle on. It makes the gunplay totally broken for some of us. One misclick of right mouse button and I'm FORCED into ADS where I am severely limited input wise. Even when you unbind right mouse button and all keys from "Toggle ADS key bind" it will still forcibly make right mouse button toggle it...

I want to hold RMB down to raise gun to hipfire.

Then click Middle Mouse Button once to go into ADS/scope. (with RMB still held down)

Then when I let go of RMB I go back to neither raised hipfire or ADS.