The current issue of people being exploit weather on this games public servers is an issue that requires an immediate hotfix from the DayZ development team, not to be covered up. I've heard that this issue is well known to you people and that you have moved pre-existing reports to be made private. This is especially heinous as it is not just a glitch or game breaking bug, but actually something that annoying people can leverage to ruin this games' online experience. Please do what's right and release a hotfix for your game so that we the community can all go back to arguing over what else you guys need to fix.
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become a dumb stuipid exploiter who seeks to ruin the game for others.
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Hello nome352.
The tickets are private due to them containing sensitive information about the servers of the reporters and nature of the hack itself.
Can you please let us know on which server are you experiencing the problem? And if on official, can you please provide us with some kind of video proof? As currently the data we have points towards this possibly being an issue with a mod.
Regards,
Geez
I have experienced this issue on the server known as “The Wall”, specifically their US3 NoRaid PvP server. If the problem is with a mod maybe, could battle eye or Bohemia not still offer some support in finding a way to put this exploit to bed? If you only provide security support to your official servers than the modded servers will continue to be plagued by problems like this.
I have had several DayZ modders look over mods on my server(s) mod list and they can't find any mod that would have these such vulnerabilities/exploit to do something like this. At this point we really need a developers help. Even if it turns out not to be a game exploit, but rather an exploit in a mod used on nearly every Modded Server/Populated Modded Servers which make up a large part of DayZ's playerbase- such as Community Framework/CF (Used on almost every Modded server as tons of mods require it). Any modded server could be vulnerable. We need the developers help on this. Thanks for reading!
With Peace & Love,
Modern
Many hours have been spent by pillars of the modding community working on scripts to combat the hack, deep dives on the code of mods, etc. They all agree that it cannot be a mod issue and also they were unable to replicate the hack via modding. Yes, TW is the community being targeted now but they can hit anybody. BattlEye has not responded to any emails up until this point and we are feeling a little frustrated. Please understand how devastating this issue is, and how much damage they are able to cause.
Thank you for your time and efforts,
Ryan
The fact that you haven't witnessed it on official is not "data", it's an irrelevant excuse to not do the appropriate due diligence required to fix an utterly gamebreaking - and by extension community breaking - exploit. There are less than 200 official servers, compared to 7,000 modded servers, with less than 5% of the total playerbase. Only treating issues that occur on vanilla seriously is the most short-sighted nonsense I've *ever* seen from BI; your attack surface is tiny, and nobody malicious is even going to waste their time griefing inconsequential servers with a half dozen people on them.
We've done our part, and ruled out 3rd party mods as a cause for the issue. If you want more *actual* data, feel free to provide a debug server build with targeted tracing implemented to server owners. You cannot, and will not, be able to pull useful data from vanilla. It's time to stop hiding behind the - essentially dead - official hive, shrugging, and saying "not our problem".
Hi, Sfmplayer here from The Fallen VI servers.
Not sure if you noticed, but the entire 'The Wall' servers are dead, literally, all servers are no longer populated
This issue has been adressed plenty of times already, and is still unanswered. You making this ticket private, already gives the impression that less priorty is givin to this issue.
Open your eyes devs MODDED SERVERS ARE DYING, because of a this fucking weather hack / exploit. WE NEED HELP.
We can deal with the shitty Battle eye protection, the ESP hackers and aimbotters, the OWNERS COMMUNITY has over 300+ admins managing the OWNERS BANLIST. but at this point, our hands are tied up on our backs.
Literally every big modder, DaOne, JacobMango, DaemonForge, and many more have tried to find a solution or fix for what is currently going on, on our modded servers.
You should take a seat in the owners discord and have a chat with us, we can't do anything about this ourselfs.
It's unfucking believe able that this has still been unanswered. This has been adressed for a couple times already.
If this weather stuff isnt fixed anytime soon and gets into the hands of more hackers and exploiters, modded dayz will soon come to an end.
HOW CAN WE RUN SERVERS IF THIS HAPPENDS EVERY 20 MINUTES???!
https://clips.twitch.tv/InspiringHyperSharkDoritosChip-nbPUkYyyTPtp58yQ
When ever it happends, we need to turn off the servers, and manually delete bin files from the storage folders, Unable to fix it with any admin tool at all.
Thank you for your time.
We had 2 servers affected by this same exploit. I presume we were used as just another place to test it.
This is a clip of one of our players logging in to this exploit havn't already been executed - https://twitter.com/ThirdTemple_ACR/status/1364760848015773699 - it was reuploaded by the person doing the exploit.
Can you please let us know on which server are you experiencing the problem? And if on official, can you please provide us with some kind of video proof? As currently the data we have points towards this possibly being an issue with a mod.
It'd be interesting to know what data there is that points this to being mod related. There are 3 important facts that would debunk this:
- Of the affected servers, we all run quite different mods. The only mod we have in common in Community Framework (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1559212036), which is maintained by Jacob_Mango who we know has contact with the DayZ development team. He has checked his mod and does not believe it to be the root cause of the exploit.
- The guy doing this is smart enough to keep the exploit underwraps for now. He knows that if he doesn't use it on vanilla then Bohemia won't fix it. He also knows that if he shares is openly with other hackers then it will also be fixed.
- There is a video on Facebook that claims this exploit was used on vanilla. It likely would have only been tested once.
It is quite hard to have faith about exploits like this being fixed when hackers can talk on an open forum about exploits they've found that havn't been fixed https://www.unknowncheats.me/forum/dayz-sa/104269-dayz-reversal-structs-offsets-269.html#post3075354
Pretty sure the only players DayZ has at this point is the Community Servers.
The modded scene kept and continues to keep DayZ up. Look where DayZ was born from. A Modder.
To have such a "hack" or "exploit" like this present is a very powerful weapon, not towards us, but towards your Engine.
If this is continuously ignored and not looked into with most priority, you will see your game fall fast, after the Exploiters are done with The Wall.
The best response we need from game developers is simple.
When are we going to see a patch for this?
Not some response saying "Well we still have no info on this"
You guys created the game, we keep it alive. Fix it.
The communities I'm a part of have been dealing with this for over a month with no end in sight. Mods have been checked for vulnerable code, they have tried to remove and narrow down mods to no avail, and even tried to get modders to create fixes.
The fact such an exploit exists within Bohemia's code and its being pushed under the rug is frankly unacceptable and I implore the developers to step in and do something.
The community I play on (Dystopia, also ran by the same owner as The Wall/Trumps Wall) has been consistently targeted and attacked by this exploit/hack for well over a month and a half. As a very active player for on said server, it’s been very disheartening to keep trying to help rebuild the player base after the first attacks forced the server to go into a whitelist, which killed and and all new players coming in. This Exploit can take a toll on any server that he decides to use it against. The hacker has also claimed on his Twitter (ThirdTemple_ACR) that he has donors who are willing to donate money for him to continue these “services” for money. This is as of now, a more isolated issue. But The Devs have to understand that this can hit ANY AND ALL servers. Dayz is a very community driven game, and a lot of new players come in by word of mouth from friends. Players aren’t going to be recommending this game to their friends if they get gray screen/sound blasted/heat turned up so high it’s like you’re on fire every 30 minutes. Something has to be done ASAP. Save these communities Bohemia, because without action being taken these communities will slowly dwindle to nothing, as well as the player base of this game we all love, even with all these problems.
This Hack is ruining many communities and the guy is using it to harass and exploit and kill the community. This needs to be fixed. the weather hack / exploit. IS KILLING COMMUNITIES, KILLING YOUR GAME. Please Help!
BI team. It is my hope that you recognize the impact this will have on future sales of the DayZ game and extended content. The outcry of the community to resolve these vicious attacks is overwhelming. The player base is indeed community driven as well as the purchasing of the game from friends of friends. The culprit who is causing this has made demands from removing admins to wanting money so it will stop, no different than the common criminal. He is very savvy and aware that the attack on the base engine will not show up on the mods as they are looked through in hind sight. The sole purpose of this person is to "ruin" the game. Not for the admins, but for the players, period.
There is quite a bit of video evidence presented and more if needed to satisfy the BI engineering teams needs. A simple ask of the BI team to provide a logging, decoder, etc to the Server Owners would go a long way to making a difference. As long as the attacks occur the DayZ population will suffer and decrease until there is nothing less. This person believes he must take down The Wall servers but does not understand that there is nothing there to replace them. In time he will set his sights on other communities who he deems unworthy and start all over again.
The player pop count on each TW server ranged between 50-110 depending on each server. They are lucky to have 8 players on each server today. When the players who really love the game cant play, they will leave to a different game. One that is most likely not a BI game. However, they would be more likely if they had the confidence that BI was standing behind their creation to fix the problem.
I implore you to act. This is the time when our players (YOUR players) need you and the team. As a enterprise data storage engineer, I stop at nothing to make sure my customers are provided for. Please step up and do the right thing.
Please Bohemia interactive, i am an avid Dayz player and this guy exploiting the weather is really ruining it for everyone, i understand i could just "change servers" but that is not something i want to do after spending so much time in one server "The Wall US3", we will keep on fighting this hacker but help is really needed so we can win this war and continue playing this great game!
I Work with Dayz communities providing moderating help, I can certainly confirm this is a real issue. A specific persons is criminaly targeting Dayz communities for ransom using some form of exploit. The community is PLEADING with bohemia for assistance, If you work with us, together we can resolve this issue. Many skilled modders have spent countless hours trying to engineer a fix, but its beyond their power. With your tools and knowledge, together we can find a resolution to this issue, and we can all get back to playing the game we love. Thank you for your time and consideration, i truly hope you listen to what is being said here.
Some cheater being able to completely destroy community servers isn't an issue, official servers are superior.
Hello Mercury from Bloodrage.eu here.
This is just insane, this error has to be fixed as soon as possible and should have higher priority than some weapons in Experimental Branche.
We appreciate that you want to push new Content to the Community, but this is way more important.
DayZ is alive cause of its Mod Support and Modding scene.
If all big modded Servers die cause of Exploits like this, DayZ will die too.
All the work Modders and Owners spent into their Server, just getting killed by a bunch of Hackers.
Please fix it BI!
Thanks!
All I have to say is this is a joke. Are the devs really serious about not fixing this issue? They would rather brush this issue under the rug than fix a game-breaking exploit that affects the player base so much they stop playing the game? If they don't fix this, the game will die, and then what? DayZ has sold millions of copies meaning these Devs who won't fix their game are sitting on more than enough money to keep this game alive. Bohemia has more than enough money to rebuild their engine to make it modular, but they instead pour all their time and effort into weapons and guns the modded community already created years ago.
I feel like the developers should focus on rewriting the engine to be more modular. Every major game developer that has a custom engine for the games has some form of modularity to prevent exploits like this from even happening. From my knowledge, the weather system is hardcoded into the engine and the game does not offer intuitive menu options to turn down the weather volume or allow for server owners to turn off the weather itself as a temporary fix.
But the thing is, this issue has really brought the biggest issue to light and that is Bohemia doesn't seem to care about their players or the modded community. The modded community is the reason this game is still even relevant. When less than 5% of the entire DayZ player base plays on the official servers but to Bohemia, those official servers are more important than the modded servers which host the rest of the player base, you know something is up.
Bohemia should stop putting all their time creating "their" version of the game first and only caring about "official" servers. Instead, they should adopt a different business model and create better tools for the modding community and treat this game as more of a platform. If the modded servers were to all shut down, the game would die so why not focus on what brings in the most players and content creators which then creates more news and brings in more players to purchase your game?
Overall I'm very disappointed with how Bohemia is handling this issue.
Devs, it's been clear for some time now that your goal must be to kill DayZ. You made your cash on it, completely squandered development, and have never known how to handle its success. You're probably just developing your engine out of it to apply to ARMA 4. Whatever the case, you are officially the worst development team in the history of the world. This current weather hack is a VERY REAL problem. It has annihilated servers with thousands and thousands of users and Discord members. The fact that it's taking this long for you to address speaks volumes to your ineptitude, your corruption, or both.
I hope someone finds the proper channel to take legal action, if that's what it will require for you to get off your sorry asses.
Jesus, all you guys crying and taking a shit on BI and official servers are acting like children almost as much as the hacker is.
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised with all the attacking going on against them if they just ignore this thread, lock it, or make it private between the creator and the devs.
Hey, I made this thread and I’d like for it to remain open. Might look like people are “whining and crying” to you but frustration presents itself in many forms. Nobody is shitting on BI or their official servers, we are simply trying to make our problem known, as right now without any response from BI at all it feels like our pleads are falling on deaf ears.
I have to use an alias, out of fear that our server/community would get targeted the same if we publicly ask for help here. Also we represent thousend of players that spend thousend of hours on our server playing your game. We are very aware of the issue and we are sure its just a matter of time until all of us get attacked by this. It is now isolated to one community, but we all living in fear when this will swap over to other communities. We already have to handle cheaters and DDOS attacks on our communities on a daily bases. We spend thousend of hours into developing our custom servers for you to have an active player base. We open livonia servers what requieres people to buy your DLC. Im not sure if you dont understand, that the modded community kept this game alive. Please take this issue serious, all other server owners, representing the majority of your customers, are painfully aware that this issue could end it all.
"The wall PVE Chernarus" server was ranked 41st on battlemetrics and since the exploiter has shown up has dropped to #501. As a new player who plays this game to relax, its messed up that they can get away with this for so long with no intervention from steam, battle eye, and/or the dev's. I've heard of it permanently damaging headsets, why is it even an option. Nothing is worse than some **shole changing the weather to "maximum values?" while I'm peacefully sitting by a fire. With no repercussion, posting videos and screenshots of what he is doing, targeting and harassing people all over social media. I wont stop playing because i can only imagine what it would be like to be an owner or an admin of one of the servers he is targeting. having to be online 24/7 to restart the servers sometimes every 20mins.
This game is great, I watched enough videos of how much fun it can be but the community is begging for your help.
Regards,
Any response would be greatly appreciated. Just let us know if you don't plan to fix it. At least then those of us who have no plans to plan an official server can leave DayZ and move one to something else. Thanks!
https://forums.dayz.com/topic/250488-experimental-update-112-changelog/
SERVER
Fixed: Prints clogging up logs upon store load of plant base (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T157686)
Fixed: It was not possible to repair tents when server had disableContainerDamage enabled (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T156672)
Tweaked: Additional engine-side checks put in place for the values of weather
Look's like you community admins got your way by harassing Bohemia Interactive, threatening legal action, and sh*tting on official servers.
Congratulations.
Imagine thinking that having an exploit that ruins players' experiences addressed is a bad thing.
In my opinion, none of the things you really said are a big deal in contrast to the issue of the exploit itself. What you are talking about is mostly aggravated people lashing out because their playing experience is being impacted because of a “beef”
between someone/some people who are exploiting this game and some people who run modded servers. The people that play on these modded servers are decidedly disgruntled with what’s been going on and many of them may have lashed out. The only people for them to lash out against are the people who made the game, and the exploiter(s) causing the issue. And since the exploiter(s) appears to be driven entirely by their own conflict with the people who run the servers he/she/they don’t seem to care about the impact on the people who just want to play. And while you are right that is is unfair for anyone to take their frustrations out on Bohemia or the development team or on the vanilla servers you must understand where these people are coming from, and at the end of the day, it doesn’t mean that the issue shouldn’t be fixed. You make is sound like these people held Bohemia hostage to do something unnecessary.
I’d just like to thank Bohemia for attempting to do what they can!
Its not the point that the person is attacking us. its the ability if some hacker doesn't like a server could be any server at all as the wall is experiencing they can just do this and there is nothing we can do about it, we are not really lashing out of the game there is just no where else to contact them and trust me we have tried. this was just the best solution and get everyone to share there experience so the devs know what exactly is happening , what the hack is doing and hopefully can fix it at some point in time.
Of course they are, that's why they are complaining about people reporting the issue.
They are just immature kids that want attention. Maybe someday they will be a productive member of society.
Probably not though... 🤷
Yeah, you definitely have a valid point! That's a great mindset as a DayZ server owner that poaches other servers for players. 👌
@Geez The hack is not fixed. Just had it happen as my servers started to get full again. A twitch streamer([[ https://www.twitch.tv/summit1g | summit1g ]]was on my server with over 20,000 Viewers. Please look into this further, for the sake of the entire DayZ/DayZ modding community.
Clip of the Hack on Summit1G's stream. (TURN VOLUME DOWN TO ALMOST 0% AS IT IS REALLY LOUD!)
https://clips.twitch.tv/BillowingAliveRabbitBloodTrail--4vgj_ZAZRKxXd0D
Historically it has been possible to crash servers and other players with custom network packets. Who knows what else is possible. Checks need to be put on all data that is coming from players.
Sad to see a hotfix come out today that does not address this issue. Would be comforting to receive a reply to this thread from a developer or anyone at this point. Been playing this game since 2014, through all the ups and downs, all the rough patches. Nothing has ever affected my play experience so severely as literally not being able to play at all on the server where my base and gear is. So dissatisfying that as soon as me and my friends get a new base going after the 1.12 wipe, just as the sever starts to become popular again, the exploit comes back. But the worst part is feeling like an afterthought to the people who have made this great game, to feel that they would rather we just go away so they can add more guns to the game that modders have already added, etc. Just tell us you're doing something to work to combat this so that we can at least have hope that there is light at the end of the tunnel.
Tldr: bohemia pls halp
Dear Bohemia, it seems to me that the time has come to focus all our efforts on this problem. Otherwise, the slogan "This Is DayZ - This Is Your Story" may turn into "This Is DayZ - This Is End Of Your Story"
I thought it was obvious it was a joke sorry bud I'll try to make it more obvious next time.