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At 48 mi-optics is too polluted, it makes it difficult to see the enemy, taking into account the fact that the size is too small compared to the ah-99. Any military equipment is serviced before departure, so the appearance of dirt on the optics during takeoff is illogical. If you want to dirt on the lens was in this case it should appear over time, and also present in all fractions. {F20405}


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tyler2 edited Steps To Reproduce. (Show Details)Jun 27 2013, 3:55 PM
tyler2 edited Additional Information. (Show Details)
tyler2 set Category to Visual-Weapons.
tyler2 set Reproducibility to Always.
tyler2 set Severity to None.
tyler2 set Resolution to Fixed.
tyler2 set Legacy ID to 2345479597.May 7 2016, 3:01 PM
CXN2615 added a subscriber: CXN2615.May 7 2016, 3:01 PM

Russian style....

Byku added a subscriber: Byku.May 7 2016, 3:01 PM
Byku added a comment.Jun 27 2013, 4:27 PM

Haha... but no ;). I agree that they are simply too dirty ^^.

Best2nd added a subscriber: Best2nd.May 7 2016, 3:01 PM

If it was Russian style it would be smeared with vodka...

On topic: Using thermals also doesn't help, you still can't see from all the dirt.

Agreed, had trouble using the thing, but unsure if this is realistic or not.

woore added a subscriber: woore.May 7 2016, 3:02 PM
woore added a comment.Jul 1 2013, 12:21 AM

Voted downn.

  1. I personally have no problems with enemy detection because of that optic.
  2. This dirty optics brings some difference to the game.
tyler2 added a subscriber: tyler2.May 7 2016, 3:02 PM


  1. I'm happy for you.
  2. Let the dirt on the optics ah-99 brings variety to the game.

Here are the reasons for which I have written about the problem:

  1. optics by helicopter mi-28/ka-52 not look like this, and is more comfortable in fact.
  2. The optics can not be contaminated if the helicopter was not raised in the air.
  3. The optics can not be contaminated only by helicopter red side.

I can `t be called a dirty optics mi-48 variety in the game, in fact it is an imbalance.

woore added a comment.Jul 2 2013, 7:55 PM

Imbalance? LMAO. Can you explain, please, how does this slight scratches tint limit any ability of Mi-48? Range? Maneuverability? Speed? Accuracy?
If some people don't play well enough, they should LTP instead of spamming useless tickets at the feedback section IMHO. Zeroing on the choppers is a problem of greater importance.

  1. Let the dirt on the optics ah-99 brings variety to the game.

If any NATO chopper would have such optics, you wouldn't report that, would you?))

tyler2 added a comment.Jul 2 2013, 8:33 PM

I would not be writing about it as ah-99 is better than the mi-48 with the following characteristics:

  1. maneuverability.
  2. the number of anti-personnel weapons.
  3. the number of anti-tank weapons.
  4. the number of anti-aircraft weapons.
  5. the ability to control the helicopter and firing one member of the crew.
  6. cheat, highlighting enemy armored vehicles.
  7. the size of optics.
  8. a clear optics.
  9. threat warning system.

What do you say to that, my friend.
I wrote the developers just about one issue, and you allow yourself to tell me that it does not matter, you are ignorant.

I agree, While playing a player mission I had to land the chopper on a hill overlooking the killzone and while I should have been able to simply jump in the gunner seat and lay waste to the AI, I had to keep jumping out an using my eyes to find targets rather than the thermals due to the lens filth.

The Comanche is amazing and handles perfectly as it should, please clean the thermals so that the Opfor's can handle as well and won't be overlooked.

On second play through I grabbed an armored Ifrit instead because I knew it had clean lens.

woore added a comment.Jul 3 2013, 11:37 AM

@tyler2 1) *facepalm*. All of your "number" and "ability" statements are wrong, just look into the config.
However, your post clearly reveals the real cause of your "imbalance" cry. LTP. LTP is a great abbreviation means "learn to play". It means that you should learn to play before posting any balance issue to don't look like a noob. To don't look like a noob and understand the balance, it is necessary to LTP. Without LTP you cannot play the game well enough. Hence it's necessary to you to LTP. You should LTP in order to don't post a nonsence like this. So, LTP.

  1. this game is not Battlefield 3/4, thanks god, and weapons there aren't just carbon copies of each other. AH-99 and Mi-48 must not be the same choppers with different skins. If you prefer such a "balance", I suggest you to play BF and CoD, and don't ruin the last tactical shooter in the world with these "turn this into another BF3" requests.
woore added a comment.Jul 3 2013, 11:47 AM
  1. Comanche is more manueverable, Mi-48 is much more armored;
  2. Mi-48 has the most powerful anti-personnel weapon in the game - 38 HE rockets;
  3. Mi-48 has the most powerful helicopter ATGM, it'll be able to destroy more tanks than Comanche
  4. co-pilot functions to Mi-48 gunner will be added later
  5. highlighting? What?
  6. threat warning system? Both choppers have the same TWS.
  7. size of the optics and its cleanness aren't relevant, there is no difference to a competent gunner.
  8. Mi-48 has section for 8 or 10 troops

LTP, my friend, LTP.

runekn added a subscriber: runekn.May 7 2016, 3:02 PM

@woore you forgot that mi-48's gun can look much further downwards.

p00d73 added a subscriber: p00d73.May 7 2016, 3:02 PM

Apart from gameplay reasons, this is simply ridiculous.
How the heck are optics of an extremely expensive and advanced weapon system supposed to become so dirty, despite constant maintenance?

Yeah they are to dirty, they add an extra layer of texture that might confuse on some occasions. My sink is cleaner than military grade optics.

actually the comanche has more anti tank missiles. 24 of them compared to 8

tyler2 added a comment.Jul 4 2013, 1:32 AM

I'll write you one last time, since none of your comments is not an argument for the presence of dirt on the optics mi-48.

  1. The Mi-48 is much booking - it's funny, he gets off one rocket AA. Glass on the mi-48 and Ah-99 caliber bullet split 12.7, although mi-28 in life, it can not be broken by a bullet caliber 12.7, and the glass on the Ah-66 will be split, with the crew I think.
  2. Mi-48 has the most powerful anti-personnel weapon in the game - 38 HE rockets, which is controlled by the gunner o_O.
  3. Do you bad at math as 8 missiles at mi-48 can not consume more technique than 24 on the ah-99, the power of missiles is irrelevant, except maybe tanks, but the tank is not all that is in Arma.
  4. Probably green squares located on the HUD ah-99 you are not confused, right? I would not bother it, too, if nebyli cheat, which points to the enemy's equipment, simple terms it is called WH.
  5. I suggest you check this, as this is not true. When flying AH-99 if the opponent grabs you in the sight of the grenade launcher, you will find the yellow indication is on the radar. On the mi-48 do not exist, notification of the rapidly approaching rocket you not to take timely measures.
  6. This is a lie
  7. For your information it is not an advantage of a helicopter gunship in Arma, because the game has enough helicopters to transport soldiers.

P.S. I would ask you not to flood this thread. For your information I play from the beginning of OFP, only in multiplayer, PvP.

Its good to see so many people taking an active part in bug reporting/feature requesting, that being said, the issue here is not of balance but of aesthetics, you must remember that at its core arma is NOT a balanced game, it is in fact referred to as an a-symmetrically balanced game, I.E if you go back to the arma 2 days, OPFor were often the much weaker side, this is counteracted by the fact that the mission maker would either give them strategic advantages or greater numbers.

Yeah, but what helicopter pilot would trust his life with optics so dirty he can barely see out of them, rather than telling the crew to clean it?

Would you drive your car if your windsheild was covered in mud, even partially? Or would you get out and WASH it?

Fadi added a subscriber: Fadi.May 7 2016, 3:02 PM
Fadi added a comment.Jul 6 2013, 8:39 AM

@Admiral Snackbar

Correct, Arma is not a balanced game. This however isn't an issue with gameplay, it's not a complaint of one vehicle being better than another. It's an issue with a texture chosen for pointless aesthetic reasons that creates an artifical hinderence against players on one side.

I don't think this issue is anything about balance, it just doesn't really make any sense. It doesn't even look dirty, just grey.

Voted up.

Where it concerns the maintenance of equipment that will save their lives, soldiers and pilots are anal about keeping their stuff in order. The same way that the action of their rifle is kept obsessively clean the same will is true of optics and canopy glass.

Bohemia added a subscriber: Bohemia.May 7 2016, 3:02 PM

Seems people will fight against just about anything these days for any reason. Some of you need to image search helicopter optics and find a picture of them having any smudges and smears upon them, or the glass being anything less than pristine, you won't find it unless the bird is in a sandstorm.

Thing to keep in mind, helicopters have FAR more zoom capability irl than they do in Arma, what seems like a tiny scratch could streak across the whole image when fully zoomed in.

Byku added a comment.Jul 30 2013, 7:33 PM

Any update on that? :P The dirtiness of it is just plain silly :P.

tyl3r99 added a subscriber: tyl3r99.May 7 2016, 3:02 PM

god damn flies :(

get some insect repellent on the lens

@Byku - They removed the dirt on the Zamak. So probably not long now :)

Byku added a comment.Aug 1 2013, 3:52 PM

Oh I hope so! :)
Assigned xD

oukej added a subscriber: oukej.May 7 2016, 3:02 PM
oukej added a comment.Aug 14 2013, 4:56 PM

Redstone had to supervise some maintenance the CSAT guys completely forgot about.

Lenses should be cleaned in the next dev. build ;)

Thank you for the feedback!

It might be consider to get some dirt overtime in game?
Althought Dirt on lens itself should not have a clear focus.

Byku added a comment.Aug 14 2013, 6:40 PM

Awesome! Thanks!

Seems it fixed for dayLight,bt still feel something there at night or with TWS mode

No fixed in 0.76.109065

Mass closing resolved tickets from last month.