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Not all faction support loading cargo (Vanilla game)
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Update 2.06 added loading cargo into trucks.
I did tests with this, it worked fine at me with all NATO trucks, but it completely doesn't work with FIA, CSAT, LDF, Sindycat, IDAP trucks!

It looks like this won't work with any other truck other than NATO
Please fix this so it works the same for everyone truck of any factions

Video example - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYGsGLhXuiE

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Open
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Always
Operating System
Windows 7 x64
Category
General
Additional Information

I am using main build Arma3, version 2.06

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mickeymen updated the task description. (Show Details)
mickeymen updated the task description. (Show Details)Oct 12 2021, 5:41 PM
Tenshi changed the task status from New to Need More Info.Oct 19 2021, 11:24 AM
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Hello thank you for reporting the problem, however is wasn't able to reproduce this issue.
Both on CSAT and Independent side the FIA the "Van (Cargo)" was able to hold cargo for me.
I was testing on the Main build Arma.

Could you elaborate on what the issue is and which vehicles in particular you have the issue with?

mickeymen added a comment.EditedOct 19 2021, 8:29 PM

Hello thank you for reporting the problem, however is wasn't able to reproduce this issue.
Both on CSAT and Independent side the FIA the "Van (Cargo)" was able to hold cargo for me.
I was testing on the Main build Arma.

It is very strange that you cannot reproduce! Hmm. There may be a reason in the mods that I use, However, it is unlikely that mods will spoil all factions except NATO!
By the way, I noticed afterwards that the RHS trucks (red faction) do not have this problem! Whereas vanilla CSAT (again red faction) cannot load cargo into their trucks.
It is also very strange

Could you elaborate on what the issue is and which vehicles in particular you have the issue with?

I use any car, of any faction, except the blue ones - these were Zamak (all versions), the Syndicate light truck, the Tempest truck.
When I was transferring a load to these trucks, I heard an error sound in the 3DEditor

I will try to disable all mods and check it again

mickeymen added a comment.EditedOct 19 2021, 9:00 PM

however is wasn't able to reproduce this issue.

@Tenshi Dude, this can't be!
I have now disabled all mods and checked again and again - No one truck of any faction except NATO is capable of loading cargo into their cargo -box !
I made video proof - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYGsGLhXuiE

Green Trucks - cannot load loads into their bodies
Red Trucks - cannot load loads into their bodies
Purple Trucks - cannot load loads into their bodies
and only blue trucks can do it

mickeymen edited Additional Information. (Show Details)Oct 19 2021, 9:07 PM
mickeymen renamed this task from Not all trucks support loading cargo to Not all faction support loading cargo (Vanilla game).Oct 19 2021, 9:11 PM
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LSValmont added a subscriber: LSValmont.EditedOct 22 2021, 11:24 PM

I can confirm this. Nato Vehicles work, other factions don't.

Also the Zamak trucks don't have "Cargo" variants like the Nato trucks do.

*CORRECTION: It doesn't even work for all NATO vehicles, for example the Truck "B_G_Van_01_transport_F" also shows the "No space in target vehicle" error.

@LSValmont thank you, for support, I constantly have to prove the fact that BIS makes mistakes)
Hopefully this will be fixed soon.

BIS_fnc_KK added a subscriber: BIS_fnc_KK.EditedOct 23 2021, 4:07 PM

I constantly have to prove the fact that BIS makes mistakes

Must be very hard work. Do you use dev or profiling branch? as this was a new feature it was first trialed on those branches for quite sometime. If you reported it then it would have been most likely fixed for release. Reported bugs in release version might take longer to get fixed.

mickeymen added a comment.EditedOct 25 2021, 3:06 PM

Do you use dev or profiling branch?

I am using main build Arma3, version 2.06 I wrote this more than once.
This is in the description of the problem - additional information

I constantly have to prove the fact that BIS makes mistakes)

I wanted to say by this that The fact is that I very often say - "BIS this is a mistake, here"! but the developer will tell me "no error", then I will have to prove to the developer that the error still exists!
As we can see in this case, the error exists, please fix it.

"Need More Info" - Please change the status, I made you a video of the error reproduction. What other information do you want?

dedmen closed this task as Resolved.EditedOct 25 2021, 6:09 PM
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I made you a video of the error reproduction.

Actually the video you uploaded shows you trying to load a box that is too large to fit into all the Zamaks even IF they had cargo areas.
A box that is too big to fit, will never fit.

These vehicles that you show don't have ViV cargo areas defined on them.
Cannot load cargo into non-cargo vehicles.

Update 2.06 added loading cargo into trucks.

Yes, into trucks that support cargo. These don't.
Infantry Transport trucks having no cargo area is intentional, as if you loaded cargo, it would clip into passengers legs.
With the Truck (second from bottom in your video) all the passengers sit in the "cargo area" you cannot have cargo and players in the same space.

A HEMTT Transport has no cargo area, same as a OPFOR Tempest, same as a Independent Zamak, same as a Civilian Zamak.

If it were a bug that the other factions vehicles were bugged like your description sounded like, it would be fixable.
But its not a bug and adding new cargo vehicles to other factions won't be done anymore.

As both our QA and I see, all trucks that should support cargo, do support cargo.
As I said, we won't be adding new vehicle variants.

@dedmen

Ok, I understand you - only cargo trucks can take cargo. Transport trucks are not capable of transporting goods.
But this raises 2 questions:

  1. Why can't the transport cargo truck accept the small box? It may not accept large cargo, but it will always have area for small cargo (between passengers), such as CSAT explosives bos or Launchers box (long and low box)

There is enough space, it will not interfere with passengers. Is it really a Game that cannot share where the big/small load? The lack of such an opportunity looks very strange.

  1. If only cargo trucks can take the load, then why only the NATO has cargo trucks, It looks like racial discrimination, Lol! Why others ( IDAP, CSAT, FIA, AAF, Sindykat ) no have such ability?
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@dedmen

There is even a third question - Why others ( IDAP, CSAT, FIA, AAF, Sindykat ) no have cargo trucks? Only NATO needs to transport its cargo?
But as I see you don't care, you rushed to close this ticket

If the game has the ability to transport cargo in a truck, then each faction should be able to do this.
It is always possible to divide the cargo into large/small and divide the trucks into those capable of receiving them.

Hi @dedmen

Today I bought and downloaded the Sahara DLC and this add-on solved the problem I was talking about. They all got cargo and platform trucks!!!
Now CSAT and Independents have the same ability to load cargo into their trucks! Aliluyah!

However, please consider the cargo loading for Zamak (cargo), it has a default cargo in its carcase, for this reason, all loadable boxes with ammunition will be loaded inside this 3D model (covered boxes) that already exist in this truck.
Need to either remove the load from the body by default, or move the attach-points for loaded objects.

Good luck!

mickeymen added a comment.EditedNov 23 2021, 1:08 AM

However, please consider the cargo loading for Zamak (cargo), it has a default cargo in its carcase, for this reason, all loadable boxes with ammunition will be loaded inside this 3D model (covered boxes) that already exist in this truck.

Fixed today, no more problems!

@dedmen Only now, you should have to close this ticket