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NLAW not abble destroy Mrap/Truck, even after several hits! [2-video]
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I remember before there was not this problem. Probably in the one of last updates (I don't know exactly what) damaging power of NLAW missiles, was severely distorted.

In the Arma3, the NLAW weapon, first had a problem - this weapon not have realistic top missile attack of NLAW from real life -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIVtB-8fQ7E
Many players know, that the missile NLAW must explode above the target, without any touches, but in Arma3 this detail does not exist. It was sad.
But now, this inaccuracy is further compounded by the weak damage of NLAW missiles. Today (v1.48) the NLAW missile cannot destroy the Hunter or Ifrit vehicles even with a few hits! (front hit) - https://youtu.be/nc9NX5DftGY
and cannot destroy heavy Truck! - https://youtu.be/rwFVi1i1wjA
This fact, turns the NLAW-weapon in the useless weapons in the Arma3!

Please fix this.

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3200704987
Severity
None
Resolution
No Bug
Reproducibility
Sometimes
Category
Balancing
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mickeymen set Legacy ID to 3200704987.May 8 2016, 12:26 PM
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After 1.50 not fixed. For example RPG-42 able destroy the MRAP-car and HMTT-truck in the one hit, while as PCML-launcher only in several hits! Why such injustice is neccessary?

The missle hits the glass of the vehicle, destroying it ( the glass) protecting the hull from further damage.

Mraps blowing up by RPGs-hits is rather unrealistic, in my opinion. It should penetrate the armor, killing the crew in its path, and disable the vehicle.

"Mraps blowing up by RPGs-hits is rather unrealistic, in my opinion."
"It should penetrate the armor, killing the crew in its path, and disable the vehicle"

Do not agree with you.
Today RPG-32 can punch through armor with thickness up to one meter!
I think in the future, the effect of hit RPG missile, can be even more destructible. Also Mraps has no heavy armor. I think should be explosion/

Anyway, we're talking about NLAW, but not about RPG.
What we see in the game with this weapon, today it is not realistic and weakly.

Sorry, I do not want to start a discussion, the AP missle types, such as the RPG, can be compared to a Amor Piecing round, that penetrates the armor and damages everything on its way (https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/140862-rpg-effectiveness/). An mrap itself can not blow up, fuel can only burn off ( would take 5-30s for a proper fire and up to 15min for a full burn off), and the mags stored in the gun are pretty much impossible to ignite. Thus only weapons that are storing explosives in their missle head, strong enough to rip some inces of modern composite armor apart.
An mrap is a metal box filled with human, why should it blow up? :D - under the assumption that they are not wearing explosives packed around their body.

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Try to reproduce your video with ai sitting in that vehicles and see when they get killed.

The thong with the Ifrit some times is that you hit his engine. You destroy the engine and the crew stays alive. In MRAPs the engines are always heavy armored.because they are the life insurence of the troops.

Im reading and staring to smile, beacuse nobody instead of mickeyman and TheMasterofBlubb know about what he is writing:

  • First of all RPG is HEAT round, not AP, which have totally diferent behavior AND ITS ABLE TO BLOW UP vehicle, its able to penetrate frontal armor of modern tanks (tandem warheads in RPG-7, RPG 29) and burn its interior or blow near ammo or fuel compartment
  • PCML is equivalent of DRAGON (?) and its firing HEAT rounds as well (as all giuded missles), so ticket topic its definetly a BUG.

The thing with the glass is more important than you suggest because when you hit the glass it will blow away in shrapnels everyone inside will be grilled but mostly no vital parts of the vehicle will be damaged. One time my complete crew got killed by a rpg42 in a strider the strider was ok because they hit through the windshield.

IF RPG round hit vehicle in bulletprof glass, it will create a "little tunnel" through it, and give the fire inside of vehicle, thats in short how heat rounds are working. It depends of many factors, but if the trajectory will meet fuel gas tank or ammo on its way - it will definetly blow it up

"TO PEPLE WRITING SUCH NONSENSES ABOUT GLASS PENETRATIONS, please read how HEAT rounds work."

What kind of nonsense? "Nonsence" - it is the that the game has no textures penetration of armored glass! This introduces the player astray. In first time, I ran the tests without a driver inside the vehicle, so for me it was quite not clear broken glass or not.

"so ticket topic its definetly a BUG." What exactly is bug?

@FightingPower agree but the effective range after explosion is just 1m so after 1 m the copper ray will spread and will be useless.

@mickeymen The gane has some textures for cracked glass (u see it as driver) but i think it would be quite difficult to make real bulletholes where the bullet hit.

"but i think it would be quite difficult to make real bulletholes where the bullet hit."
There is nothing complicated. Even the wheel has a scar! Try to shoot him from LRR and you will see black scar-point.

We are moving away from this topic. The main problem of this topic is that today (v1.50) the PCML-launcher weaker than other launchers in the game.

There for the PCML has more he dmg than the rpg 42 AT

I find it difficult to say what has more destructible power RPG or PCML!
But I want to say, that PCML should be able to destroy Mrap or Truck with one hit!

"so ticket topic its definetly a BUG." What exactly is bug?

I mean its about a bug. Many tickets are closed beacuse "They are not about a bug" :)

And while writing "nonsense", i was thinking of @Yoshi_E comments.

Adam added a comment.Sep 10 2015, 10:38 AM

As designed.