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PKM & M60 Machine Gun Nest sight misalignment
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Game Version number: 1.2.0.12
Modded?: (No)

Issue Description:
PKM and M60 machine gun nest allows for iron-sights to be adjusted for range, but the player's eye does not align with the adjusted sight.

Details

Severity
Minor
Resolution
Open
Reproducibility
Always
Operating System
Windows 11 x64
Category
General
Steps To Reproduce
  1. Open Game Master
  2. Place a PKM or M60 machine gun nest
  3. Mount the PKM or M60 machine gun
  4. Adjust sight range (PG UP/PG DOWN)
  5. Observe the misalignment of the iron rear and front sight.
Additional Information

Tested on Game Master (Experimental branch)

It appears the player is also unable to exit the machine-gun.

Event Timeline

matthys created this task.May 17 2024, 3:14 AM
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matthys renamed this task from PKM Machine Gun Nest sight misalignment to PKM & M60 Machine Gun Nest sight misalignment.May 17 2024, 3:17 AM
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Also happens on both tripod versions (without the emplacements). What happens is that when the rear sight is adjusted for range, the rear sight does not align with the front sight and that causes the gun bore line to be lowered when trying to aim, when it actually should be raised. I did not however have any trouble getting out of the tripod guns, granted I only tested it once on game master without anything else going on.

Even more simply. Rear sight moves, but rear/front sights do not align according to changes.

Geez changed the task status from New to Awaiting internal Testing.May 17 2024, 11:45 AM

Unfortunately, the problem has not been resolved.

At the same time, there is another problem with the sighting devices of machine guns on a tripod.
When rotating the machine gun located on the tripod (when the player aims), a fracture of the aiming line (eye - rear sight - front sight) appears. If the butt of the weapon is pressed to the shoulder and you aim, then a fracture of the aiming line is impossible. It is especially "funny" to watch how the optical sight of the KPVT moves separately from the machine gun (the aiming grid catches up with it when turning). This is a clear defect! It does not correspond to reality. This does not allow you to aim properly and hit moving targets.

A similar problem (non-functioning mechanical sight of the machine gun) was also found on the side machine gun of the USSR helicopter (rear gunner).

berkut_8 added a subscriber: Geez.Tue, Jul 15, 3:08 PM

@Geez
The issue with the machine gun sight not working (on vehicles and tripods) is still not resolved (Arma Reforger stable version 1.4.0.48). It has been around for a long time, but is not listed as a known issue on the Bohemia website (https://reforger.armaplatform.com/known-issues). This issue affects all players. It seems to have been forgotten.

Can I get feedback on the current status of the solution to this issue?

Check ticket T188790, the answer is mentioned there. It's weird that it's there and not on this ticket where they collated other tickets to. Or in the Known issues page, but nothing has been done since the answer was posted in 10.04.2025 or even after I suggested the Known issues page update in 25.05.2025

berkut_8 added a comment.EditedTue, Jul 15, 5:27 PM

@Akibuua-FIN-
Thank you for your reply. If I understand correctly, someone knows about the problem, but for some unknown reason does not voice it officially (on the site).
This is sad and a little strange. I hope that the problem will be fixed soon or voiced on the site. I think it is important for many fans of Arma games to know that Bistudio hears them (for me it does).

Special thanks to @Geez - you are incomparable in your work))

Geez added a comment.Wed, Jul 16, 12:24 PM

@Geez
The issue with the machine gun sight not working (on vehicles and tripods) is still not resolved (Arma Reforger stable version 1.4.0.48). It has been around for a long time, but is not listed as a known issue on the Bohemia website (https://reforger.armaplatform.com/known-issues). This issue affects all players. It seems to have been forgotten.

Can I get feedback on the current status of the solution to this issue?

Hello.
The issue has definitely not been forgotten. It is in our internal system to be tested by QA. However, issues with larger priority are always being looked into as soon as possible, while lower priority issues might take a while to be checked and addressed.
Regards,
Geez

Geez added a comment.Wed, Jul 16, 12:26 PM

However, I will double check if this is the same issue as in https://feedback.bistudio.com/T188790 and close this ticket if confirmed.

Geez closed this task as Resolved.Wed, Jul 16, 1:07 PM
Geez claimed this task.

Confirmed that these are indeed both the same issues. In that case there is not much else I can do as this issue is not going to be addressed in Reforger.
Regards,
Geez