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Tripwires not working properly
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Description

When you deploy a tripwire it doesn't show the normal imagine in the vicinity screen and does not give you an option to attach anything. You dont get the option to attach a grenade when you are holding one in your hand. the only interaction option you have is with empty hands. "f" to pick up or hold f to pick up to your hands.

Relogging fixes and you can attach a grenade, but if you pick up the tripwire and deploy it again you face the same issue.

This was on spaggies chernarus blue

Thanks for your hard work.

Details

Severity
Major
Resolution
Duplicate
Reproducibility
Always
Operating System
Windows 7
Category
General
Steps To Reproduce
  1. Craft tripwire
  2. deploy the tripwire(terrain does not seem to effect the outcome)
  3. You will not have the option to attach anything and the icon is different(See attached images)
Additional Information

image one is when it is first deployed. image two is after a relog. image 3 is after moving the tripwire.

Event Timeline

HouseQ created this task.Mar 7 2024, 11:10 PM
mrdarn added a subscriber: mrdarn.Mar 7 2024, 11:13 PM
Spaggie added a subscriber: Spaggie.Mar 8 2024, 7:29 AM

I have the same issue… relogs did not help.

Geez changed the task status from New to Need More Info.Mar 8 2024, 9:46 AM
Geez added a subscriber: Geez.

Hello superende.
Does this also occur on an official server/with freshly crafted tripwire?

Normally I prefer Namalsk modded server, but I can test this soon and will reply here.

Hi,

Just to say we wiped the Spaggie servers with the 1.24 main release so it won't be pre-wipe wires

Spag

HouseQ updated the task description. (Show Details)Mar 8 2024, 4:33 PM
HouseQ added a comment.Mar 8 2024, 4:41 PM

Some additional information. While the tripwire displays the different image in the vicinity screen where you can’t attach anything, it still triggers as normal if you walk over it. Same sound effects, the character stumbles etc.

Dudes you're being ridiculous. With due respect, but once a server has at least one mod, even tiny, the vanilla dayz ecosystem is no longer valid, therefore it's not Bohemias problem, contact directly hosters via discord or else.

You guys should pin something like this on your twitter page, or here on feedback tracker, you'll have a bit less of unnecessary work to do

mrdarn added a comment.Mar 9 2024, 7:56 AM

Dudes you're being ridiculous. With due respect, but once a server has at least one mod, even tiny, the vanilla dayz ecosystem is no longer valid, therefore it's not Bohemias problem, contact directly hosters via discord or else.

Whilst that is the case with most issues, the OP has this issue on Spaggies map.
That map is deployed as the files come down with no mods added at all.

The only differences are toggles in the gameplay file to enable the likes of dark nights.

If there is a difference between official and the server the OP has this issue on, its in the physical files DayZ provide to server owners to deploy.

I suspect this is an issue with the users files\setup, but we've not found a reliable way to stop it happening, or found a common ground between the users who are having the issue (IE it being a similar graphics card\driver). Hence the push to tickets.

@mrdarn Tell you a story, I had a friend who worked as a PC tech (fixig, reinstalling soft and so on). He said 90% of the time client said "everything is FINE, but still it keeps lagging/glitching", and he is so persuasive that you start to belive "damn. if everything is like he says that this is real mistery". Till the moment when you check his PC. You look inside - and there's mess, It's like dealer tried to sell you old totota civic as porshe spider. I'm not saying that you are like those clients, my point is you can sell it to me as hard as you can, the in the end the fact is that the server is "custom", set up by not "bohemian" personal. You say you're sure in that person 1000%, sure that he won't make a tiniest misstake? OK. But I see you 1st time, and haven't see your guy at all. You got the point, right. My advice if you are interested in solving the problem take different approach: contact directly server hosters, and here start with "hey guys, I have custom server and this problem with this settings and this mod list, maybe you could help me". PPl will take you more positive and will to help you more you know. 'Cause starting something like "I have your game, doesn't work, come on, fix it" it will only stretch the process in time you know.

And if you want fix it yourself - start with launchiing full vanilla server, test tripwires, if works - add mods one by one till you determine the faulty one. Even if vanilla with zero mods not working - means you set up the serv badly, or maybe some of the files are damaged/not loaded.

mrdarn added a comment.EditedMar 9 2024, 3:14 PM

@mrdarn Tell you a story, I had a friend who worked as a PC tech (fixig, reinstalling soft and so on). He said 90% of the time client said "everything is FINE, but still it keeps lagging/glitching", and he is so persuasive that you start to belive "damn. if everything is like he says that this is real mistery". Till the moment when you check his PC. You look inside - and there's mess, It's like dealer tried to sell you old totota civic as porshe spider. I'm not saying that you are like those clients, my point is you can sell it to me as hard as you can, the in the end the fact is that the server is "custom", set up by not "bohemian" personal. You say you're sure in that person 1000%, sure that he won't make a tiniest misstake? OK. But I see you 1st time, and haven't see your guy at all. You got the point, right. My advice if you are interested in solving the problem take different approach: contact directly server hosters, and here start with "hey guys, I have custom server and this problem with this settings and this mod list, maybe you could help me". PPl will take you more positive and will to help you more you know. 'Cause starting something like "I have your game, doesn't work, come on, fix it" it will only stretch the process in time you know.

We have.

I'm part of Spaggies test team, and we have been working behind the scenes for a while now trying to figure this out

This has resulted in the server being completely rebuilt by the hosts, a teat server being deployed with wire in the inventory to aid the testing process and multiple hours troubleshooting.

Our conclusion is its client based.

Hence why we're here for further help.

And if you want fix it yourself - start with launchiing full vanilla server, test tripwires, if works - add mods one by one till you determine the faulty one. Even if vanilla with zero mods not working - means you set up the serv badly, or maybe some of the files are damaged/not loaded.

Every part of that has been done with the exception of adding mods one by one, as we don't use any on the server affected.
None at all.

We've had our server hosts set up the server and still get this issue with a limited number of players (not all, just a select few).

If it was a server setup issue it would likely affect the majority, and not just a selection of the userbase.

If you have any suggestions on what our clients can do to troubleshoot this issue, we'd be glad to hear it.
Barring of course what we've already tried, which includes but is not limited to:

  • Setting up a fresh server on another rack as a testing base, with all new files and vanilla settings
  • Having our hosts look into the issue and having them refer us to this ticket system for further help
  • Having the user verify his game files
  • Having the user check his graphics card drivers are up to date
  • Using the "buldozer" method to reset settings
  • Having the user delete his DayZ folder in Documents
  • Having the user completely uninstalling the game, turning off cloud sync in Steam Settings, Deleting his steam cache, signing out of Steam, restarting his PC, and reinstalling the game
  • Creating a new windows user account and installing the game there

All of these seem to work for a short time, but then the issue persists.

Some points of note:

  • A disconnect and reconnect shows the tripwire set up correctly
  • Anyone nearby sees the tripwire set up correctly
  • The tripwire reacts as it should for both the user and anyone nearby if you walk through it

The issue is, for select players, the tripwire just doesn't display correctly till they relog.

If they relog, it looks and works as intended, till they pick up.the tripwire and replace it.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Spaggie added a comment.EditedMar 9 2024, 3:21 PM

@JerseyD911 I love it that you typed all that without any comprehension of what's going on

Your Avatar is very apt, thanks for the laugh

Thanks though

Spaggie has been running full vanilla community servers for about a decade, Mr Darn is representing our vanilla community

@Spaggie oh, so you are the hoster, nice to meat you man. OFC I'm dumb shit hater who don't even understand what's going on, ofc you're a saint super good guy, I don't doubt in that and not questioning that. But If I would go and set up dedicated vanilla server right now, somehow I won't get that error, and you have it. Do we have different Dayz maybe? And be easy with the avatar judging mate. You don't know me, maybe I really do have down syndrom, or asperger, or else. It's OK if you were some random player, but you're a serv hoster, and not one serv as far as I can tell. And you letting yourself to put your rep in danger like this, because of this tiny argument on the ticket? Dame, you have my respect, you need to have large cohones for a move like that. I think you're very talanted in what you do as you willing to risk your rep over nothing, that tells a lot about you as man of the business. Good luck with your issue. And ofc I was fooling you, it's not your side fault, it's the trickie devs send you busted version of dayz, bustards. They must thought it would be funny to make it work for everyone else an to fail only on your serv. Yes, classic devs prank : ) Have fun.

We've seen this reported on 3 servers

One case seems to have been due to pre-wipe wires

One case is on a very well respected but fairly modded server who've been around forever

And we've had a few cases on our vanilla server

Please do stop gatekeeping the feedback process @JerseyD911

SuperEnde is the third time we've seen it, it's very sporadic, since then we've seen it one more time

We went back and tried to emulate the issue on a vanilla experimental server and weren't able to, we then pushed that server up to stable and still weren't able to emulate the issue, but we are seeing it on our Tier 1 vanilla server

Just trying to pin it down and feedback as much as we can

So in many ways, you're prescribing activities that have already been delivered, we're way ahead of you though

Sorry Geez, we're really trying to work out what this issue is

My gut feeling is that it looks like a variation of a handstate bug at least some of the time

@Spaggie I love that you typed "Please do stop gatekeeping the feedback process @JerseyD911" while you were the one who started to talk to me in the first place. Your answer is very apt, thanks for the laugh.

Ah you got me

Well done Winner

Good for you

Geez, feel free to change the policy on this ticket to private with me House and Darnie on it
We're friends and running the tests on the server so can take this forward with more information if needed

superende is from my Discord and happened on an instance of the issue, we asked them to start a ticked

The rest is just noise

Thanks

Your just being a kid dude, you think I need to argue with some guy over nothing? Year, you're the boss, server owner and so on, but act like one too. 'Case first time instead of showing some reasonable couter-arguments you just went "you don't understand shit and your avatar is dumb". And now you completely forgot and playig lawful citizen "Geez, please, let me get rid of this guy", feel free Geez, sorry Geez. Don't need to sorry for me, sorry for yourself dude. Imagine if somebody at school came to your child and said "ya know kid, your face looks like you're dumb or so, yea, that tells a lot about you", and later that person will just act like nothing happened. Next time just think first maybe. I didn't got anyone, you got yourself long befory anyone else. And you're right about the noise, it must be the reason why you insult first, and backing down later with the tail between the legs. 10 years... server owner... and throws stupid insults like a 1st grader in CS:GO.

Your just being a kid dude, you think I need to argue with some guy over nothing? Year, you're the boss, server owner and so on, but act like one too. 'Case first time instead of showing some reasonable couter-arguments you just went "you don't understand shit and your avatar is dumb". And now you completely forgot and playig lawful citizen "Geez, please, let me get rid of this guy", feel free Geez, sorry Geez. Don't need to sorry for me, sorry for yourself dude. Imagine if somebody at school came to your child and said "ya know kid, your face looks like you're dumb or so, yea, that tells a lot about you", and later that person will just act like nothing happened. Next time just think first maybe. I didn't got anyone, you got yourself long befory anyone else. And you're right about the noise, it must be the reason why you insult first, and backing down later with the tail between the legs. 10 years... server owner... and throws stupid insults like a 1st grader in CS:GO.

Can this be done now?

Spaggie added a comment.EditedMar 10 2024, 6:44 AM

Darnie (spaggie Discord Mod) did a great point by point job of telling Jersey we were running vanilla servers, I have nothig to add to Darnie's time taken reply

The only person who's not a stakeholder in this ticket is Jersey who sought to ridicule 'you ae being rediculous' because we weren't running vanilla servers, which of course we are. These trolls are quick to call othr people names but can't take any thrown at them. I looked at his history, he's just a troll

Geez

I have created https://feedback.bistudio.com/T179796 as a pristine private ticket

This ticket can be closed

tl;dr

Please close this ticket

LouMontana closed this task as Resolved.Mar 10 2024, 8:38 PM
LouMontana changed Resolution from Open to Duplicate.
LouMontana added a subscriber: LouMontana.

Done. and removed @JerseyD911 while at it due to his behaviour here + inviting people to use cheats in another ticket. Thanks for the feedback, see you on the other ticket