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Since 1.70 i have an issue with some tree LOD. From the high LOD it jumps directly to very low, if watched through an optic.
Strange thing is LOD gets lower if the object is close to the center of the screen.
In Charkia i had the issue allready in older versions, with the trees close to the cost near the office buildings.
I thaught i was a problem on my side, but i failed to fix it. Messed with graphic settings, game parameters and checked integrety of game files.
Problem seems to be limited on a specific group of trees.

Thx for the help in andvance!


Operating System
Windows 7
Steps To Reproduce

Just look at the shown trees through a scope from ~100+ meters. Seems like more issues appearing the further away they are.

Additional Information

First clip:
Pyrgos (problem since unknow older version)

Second one:
Charkia (reeds seem to be bugged too)

Third one:
View from Tanoa crater

Event Timeline

Raidar created this task.Jul 1 2017, 6:11 PM
Raidar updated the task description. (Show Details)

So i just checked the Tank DLC dev branch. Seems to be a little different but still the same issue.
So what is wrong with this issue report that nobody replies or assigns.
It has been about a half year without any significant change to this bug... and i know
i'm not the only one having it.

Raidar changed Severity from Minor to Major.Mar 23 2018, 4:10 PM
Raidar added a comment.Aug 1 2018, 7:46 PM

Still not fixed in 1.84...

This problem is observed in many players (if not all) and it is very strange that there is so little attention to this problem.

Wulf added a subscriber: Wulf.EditedOct 9 2018, 8:45 AM


This is because of engine limitations. It could be fixed, but then your FPS would tank down and you wouldn't be able to play.

Before the patch with the new scheme for loading LODs, there was an acceptable FPS and correct loading of LODs in optics. After all, you can make a choice of options: the option before the patch and the option after the patch. It would be just fine, because in the current form, optics on islands with dense forests are useless, and the situation when people are visible without optics, but you cannot clarify their belonging to any fraction due to 2D sprites is simply absurd and irritating.

I'll just remind you what you have to deal with.

ToxaSM added a subscriber: ToxaSM.Mar 6 2019, 9:20 AM
ToxaSM added a comment.Mar 6 2019, 9:24 AM

Please fix this problem, it became impossible to play
This problem is observed on all islands, not only from mods

I have this problem aswell. Its just frustrating to play PVP or TVT with this bug.

makis83 added a subscriber: makis83.EditedMar 6 2019, 10:03 AM

I'm excited with trees like these. Do not fix them! Give me my OFP back!

The same problem, need to be fixed. Just make stable render for optics.

Gerald added a subscriber: Gerald.Mar 6 2019, 6:05 PM
pika4ytka added a comment.EditedMar 6 2019, 6:25 PM

#Bis when you it fix?

Still an issue as of July 2021

Wow, stuff is going on here! Still "Assigned To None" and after loads of great patches, the change ist "None" too.
Thx for pointing out to Wulf, that before the patch, stuff is running fine and LODs looking good and after, its running the same but if zoomed in... (QDesnik)
The fun thing to watch, when going into an optic, is: For the first quarter of a second, the LODs look fine, then they degrade. Mostly the bad LODs are in the centre
and if you move away they get better. Found myself trying to get a specific tree to LODup, to spot and then shoot where i saw the enemy. :P
I wouldn't be surprised if the bug is just a few numbers mixed up.

Divide these problems with trees per tree
Find model name and place here or create one ticket per tree

I think it's will bump and problem will be solve anyway

Well if it would be just about a few trees, i would say yes. But its about half the trees and bushes. Reeds and palm trees are the worst i guess.
When i find the time, i will try to find a different approach.
What gets me is: The bug just got his 4th candle on the cake... May 16th 2017 with 1.70 and Jets DLC.
If the fixing keeps the same paste, it will be my favorite ArmA 4 feature!