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Titan MPRL Compact lock on (AT)
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Description

How the Launcher should work:
Direct fire mode:
Look at a Target, fire, missile will follow your cross-hair.

Fire-and-forget:
You look at a heat source, camera of the missile locks to it(infra red), you fire the missile and it fly towards that heat source.

How its working right now:

Direct fire mode:
Look at a Target, fire, missile will follow your cross-hair.(As intended)

Fire-and-forget:
No lock required, select a target, fire in a random direction, missile will hit.

In this 4min Video I demonstrate that problem.
https://youtu.be/zQDvH7DiHI4

Now my Questions:

  1. Is it intended, that you are able to lock all vehicles types, even though they have no heat source?
  1. Is it intended, that you can fire the missile in a random direction?
  1. Is it intended, that you don't even need to see, or to be in range of the target to fire on it?

In case those options are indeed, intended, it would be great if you could provide a script command to limit the lock on abilities to vehicles with a heat source, together with a command to force a complete "lock on" before you can fire in "fire and forget mode".

Details

Legacy ID
3282904533
Severity
None
Resolution
Fixed
Reproducibility
Always
Operating System
Windows 7
Category
Game Physics
Steps To Reproduce

Event Timeline

Yoshi_E edited Steps To Reproduce. (Show Details)Feb 9 2016, 11:11 PM
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Bohemia added a subscriber: Lex.Feb 9 2016, 11:11 PM

I agree on all things but one. The targeting on the cold Ifrits is possible. You dont need a Heat source you need a temperature contrast means something thats colder or warmer.

Yoshi_E added a subscriber: Yoshi_E.May 8 2016, 1:41 PM

"You don't need a Heat source you need a temperature contrast means something that's colder or warmer."

That's why I am saying that it should be possible to lock onto buildings as well, metal buildings in the sun are also in contrast to the shadow around it...

The missile should make no difference between metal on buildings and metal on vehicles ^^

Shields added a subscriber: Shields.May 8 2016, 1:41 PM

Well you should also be able to view the missile in flight using the imaging infrared seeker in the tip of the missile and adjust lock and all that cool shit.
But as this is only a video game so making it work completely realistic might be difficult for the developers as they have no clue how it works in real life anyway.

Since when can for example a javelin change the lock? This are Fire and Forget missiles that do not have any adjustance after beeing released(not talking about MCLOS). I know that the Top attack is missing but still the systems are pretty acurate.

The spike isn't like the javelin, sure they can be compared but its a completely different system and works in a different way.
Incase you didn't know the Titan AT is based on the Mini Spike, not the Javelin.
http://defense-update.com/Images_new3/zaatut_minispike.jpg
http://defense-update.com/images_large2/zaatut_with_spike_clu.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spike_(missile)

Lex added a comment.Feb 16 2016, 2:19 PM

Spike family rockets. All Spike rockets has the combined system of a sight and trajectory of flight. Spike family rockets. All Spike rockets has the combined system of a sight and trajectory of flight. Control during flight is available, change of the purpose in flight, self-destruction in flight. In total within the direction of missile launch. Missile launch in the opposite direction it is impossible, only in Arma3)). We hope it will correct.
http://www.defense-update.com/photos/mini_spike.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfjnFmRtfao&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1yXsGfo4mI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpO-VpNxGRY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2ThoGCbVME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-sZ6aYl_K4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWy_-zW0NNo
In couple the Titan and the UAV laser it is possible to lock on any target.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riFhhBDtvEs&feature=youtu.be
In couple the rocketeer of AT and the operator UAV it is possible to take a laser point. The operator UAV can direct flight of the rocket to the purpose. This video isn't present, but it works.

Thanks for adding the videos @Lex, @Shields.
They are pointing out, that the implementation of Anti Tank missiles seem incorrect in the Arma 3 Engine, in their target seeking ability (no line of sight required, no heat detection, instant target locking) .

denys added a subscriber: denys.Jun 16 2016, 10:39 PM
Lex removed a subscriber: Lex.Jan 28 2017, 1:55 PM
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