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AT-Mines are underpowered.
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Description

It takes 3-4 Mines to fight a Vehicle efficent.
I like the Idea behind Mines in ArmA 3 but in Reality, Mines are one of the most dangerous things against Vehicles. In ArmA 3 the Vehicle just looses 2-3 Wheels and is still able to drive.

Details

Legacy ID
472157930
Severity
Major
Resolution
Open
Reproducibility
Always
Category
Explosives
Steps To Reproduce

Editor.
Create a Minefield and let a Vehicle drive trough it.

Event Timeline

giwemi95 edited Steps To Reproduce. (Show Details)Mar 7 2013, 2:39 PM
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giwemi95 set Category to Explosives.
giwemi95 set Reproducibility to Always.
giwemi95 set Severity to Major.
giwemi95 set Resolution to Open.
giwemi95 set Legacy ID to 472157930.May 7 2016, 11:25 AM

Yeah they should do like (just my 2 cents)

cars (civilians) = 1 mine blow up, since they don't have any kind of protection
cars (military) = 1 mine heavy damage, not blowing up but unable to drive
armors (light) = 1 mine heavy damage, limited movements
armors (heavy) = 1 mine heavy hull damage, still able to move, completely destroied on the 2nd one, or maybe the 3rd...

what vehical did you test with also mines arent always effective it depends how bad the deflection plating is see explosions are only at there most dangerous when they directly hit a surface for example

  • Bad \---------/ good c \-------/

these to diffrent bottom designs have major effects on mines
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDoRmT0iRic

Please watch this video its entertaining and informative plus the explosive he uses is way more powerful than a at mine oh and this is now tech the game is based in the future

hmmm interesting video there :D
Thanks Deathknight ;)

your most welcome lets face it watching stuff blow up is just fun :D see at will be amazing against tanks -------- poor mr tank poor design

TugeX added a subscriber: TugeX.May 7 2016, 11:25 AM
TugeX added a comment.Mar 12 2013, 1:22 AM

Voted up, however cars are not likely to explode if hit by a mine, only become a pile of rubble. Armored vehicles lose wheel or wheels and get little damage(internal too), heavily armored = tracked vehicles become immobile with broken track(unlikely internal damage).

I noticed that Bounded Mines are better AT/Slam Mines then AT/Slam Mines.

Rook added a subscriber: Rook.May 7 2016, 11:25 AM
Rook added a comment.Mar 12 2013, 8:05 AM

A poor persons AT mine wouldn't do a whole lot of damage. But when a mine is manufactured to maximum potential. Then BOOM, no tank crew for example.

Notice that Hunter and Ifrid are MRAP (=Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected) vehicles.

But I admit the explosives still can have some balancing. I intend to set the endurance somewhere to 2-3 AT mines.

TugeX added a comment.Mar 14 2013, 4:53 AM

I don't want to argue about this too much but seriously 1 AT mine should destroy both front or rear wheels (if not all) and immobilize the vehicle, depending on the place of the impact.

Mine resistance should only mean that soldiers inside survive.

I agree with Tugex. An AT mine should disable, if not destroy any vehicle with one mine. Survivability would be the difference. Obviously a tank might only lose a track, crew 100% fine, where a hunter might be completely disabled, with heavy wounds inside.

Solace added a subscriber: Solace.May 7 2016, 11:25 AM

I think the issue isin't so much the power of the AT mine as the fact that vehicles arn't disabled by losing wheels yet, it'sa bug that hasin't been fixed yet.

Actually, the hunter seems to be disabled the minute I run it over, even blows up if it's the back end that's hit, even with the m6, I'd asume the anti personel mines wouldn't have as much luck though, though, still depends on how the vehicle is hit, I just know that the hunter tends to not survive a M6 or AT mine.

Read this and watch the video before commenting

military vehicles don't use standard tyres first of all and second of all this is a non issue as I demonstrated with actual proof also this game is based in the future so if this vehicle can survive then so will one from the future if not better.

what vehical did you test with also mines arent always effective it depends how bad the deflection plating is see explosions are only at there most dangerous when they directly hit a surface for example

  • Bad \---------/ good c \-------/

these to diffrent bottom designs have major effects on mines
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDoRmT0iRic [^]

Please watch this video its entertaining and informative plus the explosive he uses is way more powerful than a at mine oh and this is now tech the game is based in the future

The timer delay could be quicker too. At normal speed (AI-wise) with a Hunter it just detonates harmlessly a few meters behind.

Just to clear up some disinformation about what IS actually AT mine.

In the video a 7 pound plastic explosive was used. C4 is the most common plastic explosive used in the military and it has explosive power of 1.34 compared to same weight of TNT. AT mines weigh usually 6-10 kg, we have 10kg mines with 9,5kg of TNT.

Let's do little math: 7 pounds is 3.175 kg, multiplied with 1.34 we end up with 4,255kg worth of TNT. So a real AT mine has twice the power, not to mention shaped charges and more powerful eplosives in mines now and in the future.

I'm sorry for the offtopic, but just for the sake of reality. And the V-hull does not prevent the wheels to be damaged, just the crew.

Another problem that occured to me, we a group planeted a AT mine for a light vehicle passing through to do a ambush, well yeh, it drowe over it and 4 seconds after the mine blowed. The car was gone...failed.

That sounds like a lag issue.

No lag issue.

For various AT Mine + ied attacks on armoured vehicles

Abrams hit AT Mine [all crew survived] - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0Tr1Epiga0

Large ied hits cougar mrap [again all crew survive] - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Cougar_Hit_By_IED.jpg

Syrian civil war, first tank hits at mine [destroyed or merely disabled I don't know]- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8jUQ7jKdSM