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Switching between short/long-radios using dedicated keys is bugged
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Description

The game has controls for Talk over radio and Talk over long-range radio. These controls can be found and changed in Settings->Controls->Common and under there in the Communication section.

As far as I understand the control for Talk over radio is specifically for talking through short range (hand held) radios and the control for Talk over long-range radio is specifically for talking through long-range (backpack) radios.
All in all these separate controls probably are for quickly changing between talking to the short range or the long range radio which is great.

To keep things shorter from now on I'll abbreviate the radios as follows: short range radio = SR, long-range radio = LR

The controls themselves work just fine but there's something that seems to be bugging when changing between radios using the dedicated controls.

The problem is that if you broadcast (using the dedicated controls) through SR then through LR and then again SR, it more often than not ends up so that broadcasting is done through LR, although it's supposed to be happening through SR. There are rare occurrences that after broadcasting through LR and then switching to SR the broadcasting happens through SR as it should but, like said these are rare occurrences.

Details

Severity
None
Resolution
Open
Reproducibility
Always
Operating System
Windows 10 x64
Operating System Version
22H2 (OS build 19045.3930)
Category
General
Steps To Reproduce
  • In Controls settings assign a new key (or use the default if available) for the following controls: Talk over radio (hold) and Talk over long-range radio
  • Go in-game and be sure to have a long-range (backpack) radio for your character on top of a short range radio
  • Open the "Radio menu" (default key G) and check that the SR and LR radios are using different frequencies. Check on the SR that it doesn't have identical frequencies compared to the LR and if it does, then change the identical frequency on the SR to something else
  • Proceed to test switching between the SR and the LR using the dedicated keys. Notice after a while (if not immediately) that when pressing the SR key the broadcast is shown to be happening on the LR frequency
Additional Information

See this video for additional information. It shows the whole process starting from assigning the keybinds and all the way to the testing the radio switching during which the bugging is also shown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz_Bf2gYpAU
The video is overlayed with Windows On-Screen keyboard which shows what keys I'm pressing each time.

Event Timeline

Asmodeus created this task.Feb 13 2024, 9:46 PM
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Geez changed the task status from New to Awaiting internal Testing.Feb 14 2024, 12:09 PM
Geez added a subscriber: Geez.Aug 1 2024, 10:14 AM

Hello Asmodeus.
Does this occur on the current latest version? As we cannot seem to reproduce the issue on 1.2.0.102.
Regards,
Geez

I haven't noticed that, but there are still problems with communication controls.

  1. If you follow Asmodeus' instructions, but select the long range radio through the radial menu, then you will send the transmission in long range radio's frequency regardless of whether you use talk over radio or talk over long-range radio button. As I see it, the talk over radio button seems to simply send using the radio, channel and frequency that is selected using the radial menu.
  1. There is no talk over long-range radio toggle button, like there is for direct talk and talk over radio, that both have dedicated toggle button.
  1. The other type of comms controls (one button for push to talk, and channel selections that don't send automatically) was previously bugged in a way that the selection between short and long range radio did not work unless push to talk was also pressed. That is now corrected, but that selection still lacks visual confirmation. I mean, when you select between direct talk and radio talk there is a text that confirms your selection (direct talk / radio talk selected). That confirmation is missing between short/long range radio. And even the confirmation text between direct talk/radio talk is actually flawed. As seen with the following example

-push direct/radio talk (shows selected AN/PRC-68 channel and frequency for US radios)
-push short/long range radio (no visual prompt, but AN/PRC-77channel and frequency is selected)
-push direct/radio talk (shows selected direct talk)
-push direct/radio talk (shows selected AN/PRC-68, but AN/PRC-77 is actually selected)

  1. I guess there should be a separate key bind to select between the hand-held radio's (AN/PRC-68) channels. Now the second channel can only be selected through the radial menu.

I have the same problem, same explanation, the Arma Rebugging has another problem with vehicles. The lights turn off when you get out of the vehicle even if the vehicle is still on.

Geez added a comment.Aug 5 2024, 9:51 AM

I haven't noticed that, but there are still problems with communication controls.

  1. If you follow Asmodeus' instructions, but select the long range radio through the radial menu, then you will send the transmission in long range radio's frequency regardless of whether you use talk over radio or talk over long-range radio button. As I see it, the talk over radio button seems to simply send using the radio, channel and frequency that is selected using the radial menu.
  2. There is no talk over long-range radio toggle button, like there is for direct talk and talk over radio, that both have dedicated toggle button.
  3. The other type of comms controls (one button for push to talk, and channel selections that don't send automatically) was previously bugged in a way that the selection between short and long range radio did not work unless push to talk was also pressed. That is now corrected, but that selection still lacks visual confirmation. I mean, when you select between direct talk and radio talk there is a text that confirms your selection (direct talk / radio talk selected). That confirmation is missing between short/long range radio. And even the confirmation text between direct talk/radio talk is actually flawed. As seen with the following example -push direct/radio talk (shows selected AN/PRC-68 channel and frequency for US radios) -push short/long range radio (no visual prompt, but AN/PRC-77channel and frequency is selected) -push direct/radio talk (shows selected direct talk) -push direct/radio talk (shows selected AN/PRC-68, but AN/PRC-77 is actually selected)
  4. I guess there should be a separate key bind to select between the hand-held radio's (AN/PRC-68) channels. Now the second channel can only be selected through the radial menu.

Hello Akibuua-FIN-,
We cannot reproduce what is described in the third point. A video or more detailed steps would help, including whether you are using a controller or keyboard/mouse controls.
The rest in the range of feedback and will be transmitted to devs.

Ok, let's try this, this is done using mouse/keyboard, well actually just keyboard

  1. before starting the test, make sure that the following controls have keys assigned (by default there are only controller controls) push to talk (PTT for short from now), select direct talk/radio talk (DT/RT), select short range radio/long range radio (SRR/LRR).
  2. start a new game master session locally
  3. spawn a US spotter (any unit with long range radio should do) and take control of the unit
  4. test comms by pushing PTT, shows transmit icon and 38 MHZ
  5. push DT/RT, shows megaphone icon and selected direct talk
  6. push PTT, shows megaphone icon
  7. push DT/RT, shows radio icon and selected AN/PRC-68 CH1 32 MHZ
  8. push G to open radio menu, notice that the radio is actually set to 38 MHZ, push G again to close radio menu
  9. push DT/RT at least twice in a row, now when the radio is selected the line shows radio icon and selected AN/PRC-68 radio CH1 38 MHZ (*) , make sure radio is selected before moving forward
  10. push SRR/LRR, no visual prompt
  11. hold PTT, shows radio icon and selected AN/PRC-77 CH1 48 MHZ + transmit icon and 48 MHZ PLATOON, release PTT, shows radio icon and selected AN/PRC-68 CH1 38 MHZ
  12. push DT/RT, shows selected direct talk
  13. push DT/RT, shows radio icon and selected AN/PRC-68 CH1 38 MHZ
  14. hold PTT, shows radio icon and selected AN/PRC-77 CH1 48 MHZ + transmit icon and 48 MHZ PLATOON, release PTT, shows radio icon and selected AN/PRC-68 CH1 38 MHZ

There is no prompt with SRR/LRR in either direction, I only included one of the changes to repro steps.

(*) I just noticed during my final check that the initial frequency is wrong in the radio prompt, so I just added the lines 8 and 9 to highlight it. I guess the info about the frequency is only updated when the radio menu has been active.

And as a side note, pushing toggle voice opens microphone and puts either the megaphone or transmit symbol with a lock icon to the screen, and the icon changes with the push of DT/RT, but pressing SRR/LRR does nothing indicating that it is impossible to use toggle voice to send transmissions on the long range radio with this style too, like there is no dedicated talk on long range radio toggle button, but I suspect that this is intentional.

Actually there are even more hiccups in the comms controls, but I think it's time to make a separate tickets for those.

Geez closed this task as Resolved.Aug 21 2024, 12:43 PM
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Hello again.
This will be addressed for 1.2.1 (next major update).
Regards,
Geez