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If helicopters turn upside down on the ground they blow up no matter what, even if allowDamage is set to false
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Description

Helicopters fall through the ground when upside down then explode.

Details

Legacy ID
110695947
Severity
None
Resolution
Open
Reproducibility
Always
Category
Advanced Flight Model
Steps To Reproduce
  1. Enable advanced FDM.
  2. Fly in a helicopter.
  3. Land upside down.

Steps with allowDamage false:

  1. Enable advanced FDM.
  2. Fly in a helicopter.
  3. "vehicle player allowDamage false; player allowDamage false;".
  4. Land upside down.

Event Timeline

MulleDK19 edited Additional Information. (Show Details)
MulleDK19 set Category to Advanced Flight Model.
MulleDK19 set Reproducibility to Always.
MulleDK19 set Severity to None.
MulleDK19 set Resolution to Open.
MulleDK19 set Legacy ID to 110695947.May 7 2016, 7:38 PM

Also have noticed this, it just turns into a wreckage. Some trigger behind this which should not be too hard for Bohemia to remove...

They really should actually not explode if tipped over even without "this allowDamage False".

This applies exclusively to RTD objects (advanced FDM on)?

Benargee: Yes.

This should be handled like in ToH. Lose the main rotor and roll over. Depending on the speed of impact, it should hurt/kill the crew.

But the issue I think is, as a BIS Dev once stated, that as soon as the chopper collides with something, physicx engine will do the rest.

They also stated that Helicopter DLC didnt include an advanced damage model, so they rather have spend hours on hours to introduce AFM, but to make it usable is out of their scope.

Hoping for a fix.

Lex added a subscriber: Lex.May 7 2016, 7:38 PM
Lex added a comment.Jul 19 2015, 1:20 PM

The equipment should not blow up from accident. Only the direct stroke of fire and the weapon can make it. Explosion from a spark at accident an exceptional case.
It is correct if the equipment after accident without survey blows up. Any person is able to switch-off the accumulator after accident, what to avoid ignition.

This glitch is extremely annoying. It should be assigned as major problem.

Koala added a subscriber: Koala.May 7 2016, 7:38 PM
Koala added a comment.Nov 29 2015, 4:46 PM

Related to #0026690

rogerx added a subscriber: rogerx.May 7 2016, 7:38 PM

Jets too also ALWAYS explode! I've very rarely ever had any chance to eject, hence parachutes are basically useless when flying a jet. I figure my chances have been one in 500.

I've updated my Bug #26690, including possible solutions.

But just realizing too that jets suffer always exploding, seems to definitely insinuate this is bug is definitely a bug having a broader spectrum. I think I have opened a bug for the parachutes being useless when flying jets, or at least made mention within another bug at the very least in the past.

Aircraft have a tendency to disintegrate in mid air. "... And if the aircraft does disintegrate from around the pilots & passengers, usually the pilot & passengers are still alive and can deploy a parachute."

This mess is not merely limited to advanced flight model. It happens always, whether the helo is crewed or empty. Very annoying, should be assigned as major.