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IZH 43 Damage
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Description

The damage of the double barrel shotgun is very poor even on short distance and can't match other weapons even in situations he MUST win!

Both Sawed off and both long version

Too many ways and too many times happens that you won't kill someone either at 0 metres with both version.

Worse scenario of today has been this: 6 shootguns shoots (2 shoots at 20 m, 4 at 10 metres) to a guy without cover and didnt' kill. What does he had instead? M4.... off course he won.

Pellets doesn't hit? Hitboxes problems?

Details

Legacy ID
238126773
Severity
None
Resolution
No Bug
Reproducibility
Sometimes
Category
Balancing

Event Timeline

GunnyITA set Category to Balancing.May 3 2014, 10:53 PM
GunnyITA set Reproducibility to Sometimes.
GunnyITA set Severity to None.
GunnyITA set Resolution to No Bug.
GunnyITA set Legacy ID to 238126773.May 8 2016, 6:05 PM
Bororm added a subscriber: Bororm.May 8 2016, 6:05 PM

Shotgun spread seems like it could stand to be tweaked. Damage seems very random. It's not uncommon to miss all pellets at very close range, especially with sawn off shotguns but also with regular.

The situation seems to usually be you either outright kill your target, or do very minimal damage. Seems a bit too random, and a slightly tighter spread may be the answer.

Pellets also seem to have strange travel time. Not uncommon to shoot and see them impact a wall at a significant delay, for even short distances traveled.

Used the sawed off against a zombie from almost point blank range and did not hit/kill him. So either the weapon does not damage sometimes or the weapon spread is so bad that it missed even over short distances.

Right now at least the sawed off version apparently only shoots a single projectile that is not very accurate.

They're only firing a single pellet for some reason.

Bohemia added a subscriber: Bohemia.May 8 2016, 6:05 PM

I shot a player that asked to be killed today because he wanted a respawn. I used the pristine IZH 43 (not sawed off) and I needed 6 rounds to finally kill him. I aimed for the head at less than e meter away. All I could see is that his shirt was ruined after the first shot, but he didn't get down.
The guy was utterly surprised that I couldn't take him out. ;)
After the sixth round he died.
I think I used hipfire, but with RMB pressed.

I can confirm that on stable the shotgun is currently only shooting one pellet, at least some of the time.

Most of the people aim wrong with the shotgun. Right the end of the barrels are the aiming point (Corssair). You have to point with the barrels directly to the head (half of the head under the both barrels) to hit the head. If you don't do that you will not hit anything on short distance. The pallets don't spread this much if you didn't saw it up. Try it an place a comment here.

I definitely know how to aim with it, I've used it a lot. I'll do more extensive testing next time I grab one, but I am near certain it was shooting a single pellet.

The shotgun is basically the gun I've used for probably 75% of my time playing DayZ, both SA and the mod.

edit
sorry not the best test ever but here's a video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV_iFYlJFWo&feature=youtu.be

We have tested this issue and got completely different results. One shot can be more or less absorbed by a vest a player is wearing. That is completely plausible. In 40% of cases a player dies from the next shot (almost 90% if shot from point blank range). A third shot is always a killing blow.

The shotgun's damage is not off by any means.

There is a problem with only one pellet being rendered with each shot, that is a different problem however and it is not the point of this issue, therefore I am closing this particular issue.