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Prone stance useless on fields because of too much tall grass (can't see anything except grass)
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I can't see anything around me yet people far away fan see me easily because the tall grass is not rendered for them.

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Legacy ID
1089999007
Severity
None
Resolution
Open
Reproducibility
Always

Event Timeline

app0815 set Category to category:environment.Dec 20 2013, 7:08 PM
app0815 set Reproducibility to Always.
app0815 set Severity to None.
app0815 set Resolution to Open.
app0815 set Legacy ID to 1089999007.May 8 2016, 2:53 PM

And what is your suggestion? Take away the grass? I think it's fine.

Don't laydown in first person and you'll be fine

Bohemia added a subscriber: Bohemia.May 8 2016, 2:53 PM

You haven't been outside much in your life have you?

Steps to understand why it's like that:
-Get up from computer and go to nearest unkempt field
-lie down in it
-try and see more than 3 feet
-come back and tell us your findings

app0815 added a subscriber: app0815.May 8 2016, 2:53 PM

Guys, no need to be d#cks. I'm just trying to help improve this game.
OF COURSE I know there are fields like that. But not EVERYWHERE. Maybe decrease the amount of tall grass? Or make some areas more covered than others. I have to admit I got saved by the tall grass sometimes through concealment. But I also would like to be able to go prone in a combat situation sometimes WITHOUT having to be on pavement or high ground.

Edit: Sure it looks like that in Chernobyl and Pripyat. After 30 years of noone living there and tending the land.

Dude - ANY field that isn't cut or isnt being inhabited by alot of cows will be like that within a month or so. Lawns are not natural.

Nice rebuttal Tabbykatze :)

The problem isn't the grass, the problem is no stance adjustment like it Arma3.

Wait...an idea for a new feature request!

Um... Really? (=o

K... I understand your predicament, but this is apart of the balancing with going Prone. in grass = more camo, out of grass while prone = you stick out like a sore thumb.

There are palces across the world where the grass grows over 1ft high. While you may have never seen it, it IS a fact. I live in the West coast, and during long rainy seasons and without cuttingthe grass for weeks, it'll get so high and thick that it's impossible to cut with the lawn mover. If you go prone in THAT... You won't see ANYTHING. You can see stuff in the in-game grass..

The grass is fine. Adapt.

Yeah, I can't agree in the least.

Being able to lie down in a grassy field, an action that makes you much harder to spot, would be heavily OP if you could see everything. The fact that it makes it much harder to see is the price that you pay for your better camouflage.

laying down in a field is for hiding... laying down on a hilside where you have a clear line of sight to your target is for sniping... ive used both techniques to great success in this game.

Much bigger Issue:
Someone 100m Away of you WILL SE YOU CLEARLY because the Grass is not rendered for him.

Going prone in a field is pretty much pointless anyways because players can perfectly see you, grass doesn't render if you're far enough away. You'll look like a sitting duck.

I realize it is realistic. But is is not realistic that you can't see anything and someone far away can see you easily because he doesn't see the grass on long distances.

Franzuu added a subscriber: Franzuu.May 8 2016, 2:53 PM

this is not a bug, the "bug" is that grass does not render at long ranges and it exposes you

One suggestion would be to be able to raise your head. Like the system in Arma 3 where you can hold ctrl and change your stance different levels.

EDcase added a subscriber: EDcase.Apr 3 2017, 3:03 PM

There should be different heights of grass or be able to raise/lower head.

Unfortunately being prone in grass does nothing to hide you from AI and makes it impossible to return fire when spotted.

AI seeing through grass is the biggest game play killer for me and friends.