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Description

One of the cool things in ARMA is the ability to command your squad.
Eg. having all your units hold fire, then wait for an enemy squad to come by, then telling everyone to "Fire at will".

In ARMA 1, when piloting a helicopter with a gunner, you could lock onto a target and say "Fire", and the gunner would fire a missile. In ARMA 2, this was changed to have the gunner fire the moment you started saying "Fire" rather than after, which really killed the immersion back then.

Now in ARMA 3, this applies to all commands given to AIs. They receive the order the moment you start issuing your command, rather than after you're done saying it.

This really kills it. It's like you're now dictating what your units are doing rather than telling them what to do.

Note, that this does not seem to apply if you're commanding "ALL" at the same time. But if you select all your units but one (or less), they'll do whatever you tell them before they hear you say it.

Details

Legacy ID
1041765687
Severity
Tweak
Resolution
Open
Reproducibility
N/A
Operating System
Windows 7
Category
AI Control / Commanding
Steps To Reproduce

Summary:
Issue a command to any group member and they'll do it before you say it.

Step by step:

  1. Start the editor.
  2. Place a player-controlled squad, and add the following to the player's init field:

{ _x setCombatMode "GREEN" } forEach units group this;

  1. Place an enemy unit 10 meters in front of the player group.
  2. Preview.
  3. Select all units in the group and order them to "Fire at will". (How it should be).
  4. Notice how they wait until the command has been spoken.
  5. Restart the preview.
  6. Order all but one unit to open fire. Notice how they will start firing before the leader is done saying the command.

Event Timeline

MulleDK19 edited Additional Information. (Show Details)
MulleDK19 set Category to AI Control / Commanding.
MulleDK19 set Reproducibility to N/A.
MulleDK19 set Severity to Tweak.
MulleDK19 set Resolution to Open.
MulleDK19 set Legacy ID to 1041765687.May 7 2016, 1:47 PM
ceeeb added a subscriber: ceeeb.May 7 2016, 1:47 PM
ceeeb added a comment.Apr 28 2013, 1:51 AM

Related to #2662

Still killing immersion 3 years later...

MulleDK19 updated the task description. (Show Details)Mar 14 2017, 6:50 AM
MulleDK19 edited Steps To Reproduce. (Show Details)
MulleDK19 edited Additional Information. (Show Details)
MulleDK19 set Operating System to Windows 7.

Nice video MulleDK19.

Lex added a subscriber: Lex.Mar 14 2017, 2:16 PM

Still there is a situation when the commander of the tank gives the order on the purpose, and the crew finds still other purposes. Your team - "Shoot", does not occur until the crew finishes the dialogue, about all purposes around.

5 years later, the lack of this still makes me weep :'(