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Lack of separate helicopter gunship "fire" rockets keybind option / Suggestion for heli gunship controller setup / If using Legacy control preset, helicopter gunship "shoot" button is illogically assigned to RT, same as yaw button
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Game Version number: exp 1.3.0.102
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Issue Description: One problem is that there is currently no separate keybind for launching helicopter rockets, that can be changed. Because heli rockets are same as all other under "Turret" control category, it means you need to redo keybinds every time you switch from heli to other turret, or vice versa, if you want to use RT for something other than rockets when in helis.
It makes more sense to have yaw on triggers because then it will be gradual, more control.

One other problem is that on Legacy controls, both shooting and yaw right uses RT input, which means if you try to yaw right, all rockets will also fire..

I also find the Updated heli gamepad controls to be a bit limiting..

My proposition regarding the heli gamepad control scheme for both Updated and Legacy is to use "Legacy" as a base, but then bind the shoot button to RB instead of RT, and unbind freelook from RB when you are a heli pilot because it is unnecessary if the setting "Controller freelook in aircraft" is changed. If you try it you'll see what I mean. ( T187981 ) To clarify, this will allow full control in every direction while also being able to look around using right stick without having to press any freelook button, which means that freelook button can then be used for rockets instead.

When you tap RB to fire rockets in this case it like recenters the camera or something which is a bit weird, probably something to do with freelook (T190728) but should be fixed if unbound. The function is not needed

Also LS + X to turn off engine seems to not work well sometimes.

Thanks

Standard Legacy:

My setup / recommended / tweaked:

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Tweak
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Open
Reproducibility
Always
Operating System
Windows 10
Operating System Version
XBOX SERIES X
Category
General
Steps To Reproduce

Please include reproduction steps here!!!!
First use normal Legacy controls or similar
Fly gunship, launch rockets, yaw, test different keybind vv

To clarify the good controls are: Use Legacy preset
Change "Controller freelook in aircraft" to Yes
Bind Turret "Fire" action to RB

Additional Information

To be honest these should also be the normal helicopter controls, but it is only my own opinion. I have not found any issue at all with the above setup.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArmaReforger/s/eF6OOc0C0t

Also, linking T187346 & T188150

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Please, change the turret button from the heli to the rest, so the problem will be addressed, avoiding problems with other vehicles like the lav. If you change the fire to RB, for example (that's the button I want) when you go to the lav and press LT to zoom, you cannot shoot it. For example, if you change to Y, the LAV works when you press LT. It's a weird situation, and the fire button for the heli and turrets must be different and not the same to avoid this issue right now.

byNautiic added a comment.EditedSun, Mar 23, 11:06 AM

I made videos showing there are no issues flying with this setup:


You can also see the camera snapping a bit when firing.

I have the same configuration for the heli on the experimental, I changed the fire to Rb and all perfect. The problem with that configuration, if you try to shoot with the LAV, you cannot do it and when you press LT to zoom in, there is a problem. The key configuration for the heli must be separated from the rest of the vehicles and not share the turret configuration to avoid the problems right now.

I have the same configuration for the heli on the experimental, I changed the fire to Rb and all perfect. The problem with that configuration, if you try to shoot with the LAV, you cannot do it and when you press LT to zoom in, there is a problem. The key configuration for the heli must be separated from the rest of the vehicles and not share the turret configuration to avoid the problems right now.

Precisely. Hopefully this can be reworked.

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