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No stamina cost for prone and less problematic q-e spam
Confirmed Internally, NormalPublic

Description

This causes unnatural gameplay mechanics in vanilla and vanilla+ servers. I have noticed more and more people adopting this tactic, and it clearly provides added value to the user. Currently doing it has no cost, no stamina cost, no accuracy cost. A lot of people are spamming q-e, then when they see someone they go immediately prone and shoot at the same time, doing this with 100% accuracy. The animations are also quite fast contributing to the efficiency of this move.

Adding a stamina cost/slowing the animations with these actions would at least make it more natural and more of a decision than "always do it in cqb". This is starting to become very common on vanilla+ pvp servers, especially with more advanced playerbase.

Details

Severity
Tweak
Resolution
Open
Reproducibility
Always
Operating System
Windows 7
Category
General
Steps To Reproduce
  1. Go prone aim at the same time, same accuracy as normally. You can also spam prone and going up
  2. Spam q-e behind cover, very difficult to hit.

Event Timeline

Geez changed the task status from New to Awaiting internal Testing.Jan 20 2025, 3:36 PM
Geez changed the task status from Awaiting internal Testing to Confirmed Internally.Feb 10 2025, 11:09 AM
lobbysurfer added a comment.EditedFeb 21 2025, 2:24 PM

Additional suggestion, it might be better to limit leaning to when the player is stationary or walking. Currently you can jog and lean. Though, with staminacost it would be still possible to retain the current gameplay on those servers where aim and movement are main focuses, as these servers have unlimited stamina

furrezi added a subscriber: furrezi.EditedFeb 27 2025, 6:03 PM

I agree, these two things feel unnatural and do not fit in the game. Many players bind lean to the same buttons as Move Left and Move Right, which makes them automatically lean when they are moving side to side. In my opinion the best way fix the lean issue is to slow down the movement whenever the player is leaning. This would counter the keybind abuse as it would slow you down. This is the way it used to be in ArmA 2 too.

For the prone spam, maybe stamina consumption and accuracy nerf would counter it.