Helicopter camera
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Please put back the old heli camera, the new static heli camera is sooooo baaad ruined the game, also on KOTH you can't see your teammates on the gps, you can't see the safezone or the AO area. You pretty much ruined KOTH and flying helicopters, the two things i loved.
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Please watch my video so you know what i am talking about

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Blocked By
T124875: FOV Change On Velocity Exceeds (Helicopter Config Oddity)
Severity
Tweak
Resolution
Fixed
Reproducibility
Always
Operating System
Windows 10 x64
Category
Controls
razazel changed the visibility from "Custom Policy" to "Public (No Login Required)".May 17 2017, 6:03 PM

+1 Pretty much everyone on Olympus is upset about the new 3rd person heli camera and wants it to be reverted to the old one.

Agreed change it back its absolute rubbish.

MrCats added a subscriber: MrCats.May 17 2017, 11:55 PM

I have to agree it's 10/10 for Jets but for Heli's is not great.

yobson added a subscriber: yobson.May 18 2017, 11:33 AM

Completely agree, has made the flying of helicopters pretty much impossible for me. Hate it.

nunya added a subscriber: nunya.EditedMay 18 2017, 5:47 PM

Please fix this even with head tracker it sucks. This should be a high priority. Nobody landed a heli during testing? How could this be missed? Why wasn't it addressed before release? How about that unfinished half-assed carrier. WTF BI?

Being that this has only changed as a result of the Jets DLC, the common thought here is that it's the preferable way to fly a jet. As anyone that has flown a chopper in the last 3 years can tell you, this new camera for choppers is complete garbage. There should be either a way to toggle the option on or off, or just revert the old camera back for just choppers. It's hard to comprehend how this was missed? Has anyone from BI ever tried to do a fast extraction before, cos you cant do it now. Takes me longer to land a chopper now than it does to get drunk.. Common BI, lets fix this.

I agree, you should change it back, it is not enjoyable how it is at the moment

nunya added a comment.May 19 2017, 7:36 PM

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HELLO? anybody paying attention?

We need a dev to look at this and i dont think thats gonna happen :(

There was another thread on the forums that had one of the Developers from BI saying that they made a mistake and that they were looking for a way to quickly resolve the issue.

Dantas added a subscriber: Dantas.Wed, May 24, 10:05 PM

Pretty much everyone on Olympus is upset about the new 3rd person heli camera and wants it to be reverted to the old one.
Please go back to the old helicopter camera.

+1 I agree, you should change it back, it is not enjoyable how it is at the moment,
+1 to be reverted to the old one.

Please!!!!! This makes me dizzy :/

oukej added a subscriber: oukej.Fri, May 26, 11:33 AM

The camera should no longer follow vehicle in pitch.
Update https://t.co/Xw3VHCoh4L

Hotfix 1.70 (Crash Fixes, Helicopter Third-person Camera)

With this update it seemed even worse.
It should be exactly like it used to be.
Three thousand hours driving, and now I seem to be drunk weak.

Please, some option to return as before. Please BI :/

I knew something was not right. I liked the old camera before.

Please revert to 1.68 camera for helis, even with the hotfix this is unplayable to a veteran pilot... not to mention how this negates every 3rd person tutorial and video on youtube.

Devs, Please revert. Your most loyal fans are waiting to hear from you.

have 1000 hours of flying
now i no longer fly. Why? its camera view is horrid and I no longer enjoy flying. even after that hotfix it is the same cancer as when the jets dlc first came out.
why ruin something that hasn't changed ever

Rogue_Shadow

Man, I also stopped playing for that reason.
I've never been so disappointed now.

Devs, Please revert. Your most loyal fans are waiting to hear from you ²

Please!

Ilias added a subscriber: Ilias.EditedThu, Jun 1, 4:10 PM

Sorry, what you mean by this ? Can you please make video showing that ?

Sorry, what you mean by this ? Can you please make video showing that ?

Video of what. have you tried flying with the latest camera? im guessing not

Ilias added a comment.EditedThu, Jun 1, 4:21 PM

Sorry, what you mean by this ? Can you please make video showing that ?

Video of what. have you tried flying with the latest camera? im guessing not

Did, alot, didn't mentioned any differences from what was before.
Flying right now, point me to the "problem" please
If you mean what 3rd person camera not following nose direction then you just think 3 dimentional and no problems, and absolutely,on 200% it is NOT IMMEDIATE, because of ones like you who writing things like that with statuses like that its taking longer and longer for devs. to respond

The hotfix helps but the 3rd person helicopter flying experience is still vastly inferior to the way it was in 1.68. It seems that the movement of the horizon with changes in pitch was dampened rather than eliminated.

I will only be happy with a reversion to the 1.68 3rd person camera or another fix that makes it functionally indistinguishable from the 1.68 3rd person camera.

Dantas added a comment.Fri, Jun 2, 7:15 PM

We want the helicopter camera version 1.68

BISTUDIO STOP FIXING STUFF THAT IS NOT BROKEN!

CHANGE IT BACK TO 1.68 CAMERA AND LEAVE IT BE.

I have 2500+ hours on Arma 3, and I've been flying whenever I can. It is my prefered method of travel, I've been a WO#/Pilot for all of my milsim groups.

Even with Trackir, this new camera movement is both nauseating and annoying. Remove this, or give me an option to remove it myself. Why can't BI fix the things that need to be fixed? How is development even split? Was "improve the camera" dropped on an intern's desk and then moved into the main build without anyone checking?

Can you help us understand... can this be done? Is it really that simple? Here is greenfists mod on steam, sending it your way to see if it will help.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=942539625

The following is from the forums on this subject:

Greenfist

Warrant Officer
Greenfist
Member
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2232 posts

Posted Monday at 10:58 PM · Report post

  
 On 6/12/2017 at 10:29 PM, Misconduct said:

" But excellent job by greenfist!

 B.I. hire greenfist. jk Im sure its not that easy to make this work with the current build, or doing it without undoing improvements to jets. but it seems like this as an option would be ideal."

(greenfist)
"Thanks. I'm very qualified for the job if it involves nothing else than replacing one 0.5 with 0. :)

If BI simply wants to make the horizon fixed again, that one zero is enough. And as you can see, it doesn't affect the current jets."

Please lock the horizon.

Im sorry to be pushy but it has been a month since 3rd person helicopter camera was (accidentally?) changed, I simply need to know if Bohemia cares or not that some of us dedicated our last 3 years of gaming to the use of that camera (1.68).

WHY DON'T YOU EVER ANSWER US BOHEMIA????????????

just give us an update!

this is such an insult to your most dedicated fans, I challenge Bohemia to convince me to ever buy something from them again -

since not only will you change the fundamentals of the game after 3 years, you do it by accident, NEVER fix it, and cant even be bothered to SAY you're never going to fix it.

Until you fix this, kindly fuck yourselves. (sorry but I'm simply returning your insult of complete silence and dismissal)- I kind of want my money back after 3 years.

...my apologies for the tone. I have dedicated too much time/effort into my youtube channel (dedicated to showing the beauty of Arma 3) to watch it become rendered outdated and pointless - at least not without fighting for it.

I have begged on the forums for a response from Bohemia and there are no answers, from the consumers perspective you are not interested in fixing this.
Is your plan to simply disregard our dedication to you? Why are we begging for a fix after a month?

Will I be streaming the former beauty of Arma in the new map on the 22nd? - using the 1.68 camera, or will I be trying not to throw up as I re-learn how to fly? or will I simply play another game?

oukej added a comment.Wed, Jun 21, 5:30 PM

External camera behavior in helicopters has been changed back to a fixed chase point so it's motion is no longer smoothed and it no longer moves vertically to retain vehicle's aim in the center.
https://forums.bistudio.com/forums/topic/204694-helicopter-camera/?do=findComment&comment=3203840

oukej lowered the priority of this task from "Immediate" to "Normal".Wed, Jun 21, 5:31 PM
oukej changed Severity from Major to Tweak.
oukej changed Resolution from Open to Fixed.

External camera behavior in helicopters has been changed back to a fixed chase point so it's motion is no longer smoothed and it no longer moves vertically to retain vehicle's aim in the center.
https://forums.bistudio.com/forums/topic/204694-helicopter-camera/?do=findComment&comment=3203840

Fantastic! Thanks for listening; I'm really looking forward to having the old experience back. Tried it in the dev branch and it's what we wanted.

Hello

Weapon updated today 06/22/2017.

Has the 1.68 camera come back? I barely believe it.

xD

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