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Heat behind window shouldn't be detected with FLIR
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Description

Now in the latest branch of ARMA3 heat behind some window can be detected with FLIR which is wrong. In addition, I have tested another window of choppers\ planes and find they are normal. I have tested window of cars and find the windows are wrong. For windows of buildings there are two situations:

  1. it can block heat of human.--see the pic: windows on buildings1
  2. the glasses\goggles behind window can be detected --see the pic:windows on building 2

Please fix the thouse windows. {F25544} {F25545} {F25546} {F25547} {F25548}

Details

Legacy ID
4103945278
Severity
None
Resolution
Open
Reproducibility
Always
Category
Engine
Steps To Reproduce

Just watch heat source behind windows with FLIR.

Additional Information

windows of choppers\planes are normal.
windows of cars are wrong.
windows of buildings can block heat of human, but not the glasses\goggles on human.

Event Timeline

msy edited Steps To Reproduce. (Show Details)Feb 7 2015, 6:00 AM
msy edited Additional Information. (Show Details)
msy set Category to Engine.
msy set Reproducibility to Always.
msy set Severity to None.
msy set Resolution to Open.
msy set Legacy ID to 4103945278.May 7 2016, 8:14 PM

Is there a scientific basis for why unit behind a glass should not be detectable on thermal?

pops added a subscriber: pops.May 7 2016, 8:14 PM
pops added a comment.Feb 7 2015, 1:13 PM

There are three types of IR radiation: near IR, medium IR and far IR. At .74 µm - 1.4 µm, near IR is still close to the visible spectrum and usually travels through glass, especially window glass. Remote controls use this also - you can switch your TV on/off through a window.

Medium and far IR (1.4 µm to 1 mm) are often made visible with IR cameras, including FLIR. They do not travel through normal glass made of quartz. It requires special types of glasses to be transmissive to these types of IR. Even with these special IR optics, transmission values don't go beyond 70 %, so 30 % are absorbed.

I don't believe that for example MRAPs have their protective windows made from anything else but some sort of laminated quartz glass. Very thick and pretty much absorbing or reflecting 100 % of the medium and far IR. Only speed cameras make use of the near IR when they catch you speeding, but their range is very limited in comparison to high tech FLIR.

Koala added a subscriber: Koala.May 7 2016, 8:14 PM
Koala added a comment.Feb 7 2015, 3:40 PM

I have worked with a FLIR operator and it is true: You can't see through windows and you can't see, what is below the water surface.

It is pure hollywood, that you can see through objects (f.e. inside buildings through walls) with infrared sights.

You only can see heat emission with FLIR. If you find cover under or behind an object, that is warmer or colder than your body, than you are invisible. If you touch a window long enough, you will only see a handmark from the other side but not the whole body.

/upvoted

Bohemia added a subscriber: Bohemia.May 7 2016, 8:14 PM

I'm afraid this is true, Flir cannot see throuh glass :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PLo5iCEcX4