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This was possible in Arma 2. Bring it back ;-)

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Legacy ID
678603021
Severity
None
Resolution
Open
Reproducibility
N/A
Category
Feature Request

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50cal edited Steps To Reproduce. (Show Details)Aug 7 2013, 11:22 PM
50cal edited Additional Information. (Show Details)
50cal set Category to Feature Request.
50cal set Reproducibility to N/A.
50cal set Severity to None.
50cal set Resolution to Open.
50cal set Legacy ID to 678603021.May 7 2016, 3:54 PM
Bohemia added a subscriber: 50cal.Aug 7 2013, 11:22 PM

Should only be possible while the aircraft is on the ground to keep the engines running. I don't think it should be possible while the aircraft is airborn.

Bohemia added a subscriber: Bohemia.May 7 2016, 3:54 PM

On ground sure, in air no.

50cal added a comment.Aug 8 2013, 6:23 AM

If you have a parachute and the helo is completely out of control you would try to bail out.

Except pilots don't wear parachutes, the only parachute capable aircraft have them stowed in the seats.

Real helicopter pilots don't have the option to bail out in flight. They HAVE to attempt to land te helicopter then bail out.

50cal added a comment.Aug 8 2013, 1:51 AM

I know it's not realistic, it's about freedom!!!

Could be useful for James Bond like missions ;-)

even in a littlebird? it could be you are flying high and pretty, you lose all power to your engines, then you could grab a parachute and jump in time for lunch.
Well actually that's untrue... in a helicopter you CANNOT bail out without being turned into a red misty pulp. You would get caught into the blades. In a plane however very much so you should

50cal added a comment.Aug 8 2013, 1:45 AM

Ok let's get some facts.

Flying at approx 80kts (in auto rotation) with a vertical speed of about 1500ft/min...that's about 14kts vertical speed.

A human body doesn't fly with that kind of ratio...just a wild guess ;-)

To make it simple you will not hit the main rotor unless the helo suddenly banks on your side...and even then, by the time you would be way behind.

From my (airplane pilot) point of view it is absolutely possible to bail out of a little bird...

If you sit in a little Bird and your Tail Rotor says Goodbye, you WANT to jump!
Why should'nt a heli pilot have the chance to save his life but an airplane pilot can?

AD2001 added a subscriber: AD2001.May 7 2016, 3:54 PM
AD2001 added a comment.Aug 8 2013, 2:48 AM

You seriously can't recover a tail rotor?

Helicopter pilots are trained how to properly auto-rotate and fly with stuck pedals/lost tail rotor. They are NOT trained to bail out of their aircraft. I'm speaking from real experience here.

Why can pilots bail out of fixed wing but not helicotpers...hmm..

Well it comes down to how they move, planes move via thrust whereas helicopters move by lift.

The engines of a plane create the thrust to move it forward (the only way a fixed wing aircraft can move)

Whereas the engine of a helicopter power the rpm of the rotor system, which when in air can be spun by wind alone to generate enough lift to gradually fall.
Add in the differences of speed (commercial airliners can make emergency landings but their engines are wide and open whereas military engines are hidden inside the aircraft and travel MUCH faster.

50cal added a comment.Aug 8 2013, 5:50 AM

Thanks NodUnit I had a good laugh reading you.

Let's please end this debate here. It's not about if helo pilots are bailing out or not...they don't and we know why.

Nevertheless it is possible possible to do so.
It's even easier than with a plane since you can reduce your airspeed to zero.

The "would it be possible or not question" being answered it would be nice to see this feature coming back into the game.

If you look at it from a gameplay perspective then--

In Arma's 1 and 2 multiplayer the moment the aircraft starts taking fire they bail out and leave people in the passenger seats to their doom.

Or they decide to be cute little trolls and fly towards an obstacle and then bail out while the aircraft is on trajectory, watching as the helicopter smashes into said obstacle and explodes.

50cal added a comment.Aug 8 2013, 6:20 AM

Now that's a good point for not having it back into the game...I agree

Perhaps this could be editable by admins for the multiplayer part?

Quote "Or they decide to be cute little trolls and fly towards an obstacle and then
bail out while the aircraft is on trajectory, watching as the helicopter smashes
into said obstacle and explodes."

I'm not going to lie. I do this in Arma 2 sometimes but never with passengers onboard. Usually I use the eject option to keep the engines running to grab ammo or something to minimize startup time when getting back in the aircraft.

Wouldn't be against having it as a server option though default should be off in case there is no admin.

@ Dennis, that's on the ground right? Nothing wrong with that.

T0bias added a subscriber: T0bias.May 7 2016, 3:54 PM

IT'S A VIDEO GAME YOU CHODESNORKLERS

If I want to get in a helicopter, fly as high as I can, jump out and glide to the ground like a fluffy little meatsicle, then I should be able to choose to do that.

When it comes to multiplayer there are thousands of ways you can grief your team at any time. Disabling a fun feature in an attempt to prevent just one method of doing this is goddamn retarded.

Sure, almost no pilot would actually attempt to bail out of their helicopter in midair in real life. This doesn't matter. Arma 3 is a simulation VIDEO GAME. The whole point is that you can make decisions in this VIDEO GAME that wouldn't be feasible in real life. It's a sandbox.

Way to bump a ticket 20 days later just to express your opinion in a manner lacking civil discourse.

Yes Arma 3 is a game but that doesn't mean it has to be like every other game with that feature.

T0bias, it's because of people like YOU, that this is disabled. Go back to BF3 if you want to bail out of an aircraft for absolutely no reason. Realism is what I'm striving toward with this "game". I'm sure the majority of others will agree with this statement. That's why people play Arma and not bullshit BF3 or COD. Now go back in your hole like a good boy...

T0bias added a subscriber: Dennis.May 7 2016, 3:54 PM

@Nod I found this by googling "arma 3 eject from pilot seat", why would it matter how old the ticket is? How I choose to express my opinions is entirely my prerogative.

@Dennis In what way is limiting your options, arbitrarily deciding "no, you are not allowed to choose to do that", realistic? In reality you can do literally anything as long as you are prepared to deal with the consequences. Way to make a baseless statement about "why people play arma" as if that somehow makes a sensible argument, I'm pretty sure at this point the vast majority of people play arma because of that dumb zombie mod, and this proves nothing. Now go stick your head back up your own asshole you jackass.

You have a valid point. In real life the pilot DOES have the option to ditch the aircraft and all passengers aboard.

Now I will stick with the old quote "Never argue with an idiot because hey will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience"

Yes, you're right, in real life a pilot does have that option. They would then have to deal with being dead, or in the case of the extreme unlikelihood they survived they would be sent to prison or possibly sentenced to death depending on jurisdiction. These factors might cause said pilot to decide against bailing out of the plane, but they do not actually stop them from making that decision and acting upon it.

So since you can't make any kind of legitimate counter-argument, you just fall back on implying I'm an idiot because that means you win the discussion. Of course. Can't argue with that.

No Tobias, it shouldn't be a feature because it would just be insta-suicide... why waste programming time..? If you are saying its like real life so FREEDOM and its a videogame so FREEDOM but no... arma 3 is NOT REAL LIFE and should not be taken as such. It is a videogame you are right but it also has some semblance of "no lets not add this option which to serve relative realism would kill the player"

Wait, does the ticket talk about jets or helicopters? We need to be able to bail out of jets.

What do you mean "why waste programming time"? The code is already there, it's just disabled for that one seat.

If arma is not real life and should not be taken as such, why is it such a big deal that players would be able to jump out of a helicopter and live? You're saying that arma should not be realistic but this should be in the game because you think it makes it more realistic even though it actually doesn't.

No I am not. I am saying its not a "real life simulator" whereyou can do useless things. In real military combat however, ditching a helicopter would kill you, SO WHY WOULD YOU PUT A SUICIDE BUTTON IN?
Also to stop you combatting with "ew if its not a simulator then memamrmehnam"
Its a relatively realistic military shooter. MMKEH!?!