It's been observed on servers that A-164 Wipeouts, whilst diving onto Tigris/Cheetahs (AAT's) appear to survive an unreasonable number of accurate, effective hits from 35mm AA AutoCannons. Despite sustaining damage from the impacts, they are still able to perform escape maneuvers and re-engage more ground targets.
Description
Description
Details
Details
- Severity
- Major
- Resolution
- Open
- Reproducibility
- Always
- Operating System
- Windows 10 x64
- Category
- Gameplay
Steps To Reproduce
Engagement Range: 4km - 1Km
Place Tigris or Cheetah. Use a skilled human player to operate the gun system, with Active Radar ON.
Place Wipeout Pilot in flight. Use a skilled human player to operate the platform.
Wipeout acquires AAT, dives onto AAT and fires any kind of unguided weapon to destroy the AAT. Pilot may disengage at any point after firing.
AAT acquires approaching Wipeout. Tracks Lead Reticle and fires when Wipeout is in range. AAT continues to fire accurately (in controlled bursts or sustained fire) until the engagement ends.
Additional Information
If the Wipeout pilot does not manage to destroy the AAT, they will still be able to re-position and re-engage.
If the Wipeout does destroy the AAT, they will have suffered non-critical damage from any hits.
2 AAT's working together to destroy a diving WIpeout will be unable to destroy it.
Event Timeline
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Hello.
Wipeout should be tougher than other planes and we were able to shoot them down with no problem. There is a slight issue that Wipeouts individual parts like the engine, controls etc. are more resistant than they should, but we will have a look at that.
Thank you for the report.
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Thanks Wulf, appreciate the quick reply. I can't place any guarantees the skill of the players involved in the engagements, other than to point out that they are more than proficient.
In my tests I've seen the same. Only instruments systems are orange/red at 50 autocannon hits (ammo depleted count from Tigris and Cheetah, not trigger pulls) to the front, or side profiles while other damage systems remain unharmed.
I agree that yes, the Wipeout should be tougher than other aircraft.
However, I would relate that to the concept base in the sense that the pilot isn't easily killed by gunfire or explosion, due to the armoured tub encased in the cockpit.
I would argue that due to the autocannon separation and lack of shot convergence on the Tigris and Cheetah that hits taken head-on from those platforms currently should be damaging the engine systems and fuel systems in the wings as opposed to instrument systems. This creates a situation where control degradation (not loss, ie severe flight axis range penalties) is expected and fuel fire is highly likely.
If shot convergence were implemented on the Tigris and Cheetah's autocannons (based on zeroing) it is reasonable to expect pilot survival would be much less likely, and aircraft systems other than avionics and display would be at higher risk of higher damage earlier in accurate engagements.
It is also possible that the resistance applied by aircraft armour to HE impacts needs tweaking to resemble values closer to projected 2035 aerial armour performance. This may also bring to light the weight of the armour, etc and it's effect on payload and flight performance.