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Apples glitch
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Description

If you find a way around the exploit for stable even better! If not...

My thoughts-

Remove the "Search for apples" for 0.61 stable until a redesign is in place.
We should see more players looking for food and hunting/fishing, this makes DayZ fun and ALIVE.
The apple glitch just ruins all of the magic.
It is a game breaking bug in terms of the survival side of DayZ.

Plus having canned food rarer for stable will enrich the hunting/fishing.

(And maybe the berries too if happens the same way)

Details

Severity
Major
Resolution
Open
Reproducibility
Always
Operating System
Windows 7
Category
General

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cs_wolf created this task.Dec 13 2016, 3:19 PM
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Jawsh added a subscriber: Jawsh.Dec 13 2016, 3:55 PM

Are you sure you don't want to edit the description another ten times?

dGuy added a subscriber: dGuy.Dec 13 2016, 4:48 PM

+1 for this solution!
No apples until this bad exploit has been fixed.

Geez changed the task status from New to Reviewed.Dec 13 2016, 4:51 PM
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Hello cs_wolf and thank you for the feedback.
Your suggestion of temporary apple gathering removal will be considered by the team.
Regards,
Geez

Sorry, but I do not know English and I use a translator to follow the feddback.

I leave a suggestion for the apple tree.

I think you could change the way you get the apples to avoid the glitch.
Instead of doing the search animation in the trunk of the tree, an animation could be generated in which the character shaken the tree for several seconds, and in case that tree contains apples, the apples fall to the ground.

This would allow the number of apples to be random, even null.
That is to say, it would have to find a tree that contains apples, and in case of finding, the amount found would be variable.
And if another player has already passed through that tree, it does not contain apples.

With this it is possible to avoid the fault and to make more unpredictable the possibility of finding apples, and more real.

It's just a suggestion

mtgiri added a subscriber: mtgiri.Dec 14 2016, 6:19 PM

+1
Make no sense to make food rare but u can still spam/glitch trees.

dGuy added a comment.EditedDec 14 2016, 6:51 PM

Instead of doing the search animation in the trunk of the tree, an animation could be generated in which the character shaken the tree for several seconds,
and in case that tree contains apples, the apples fall to the ground.

Technically the new animation would be the same bad thing than the old one.

The devs need to find the problem and not replace an animation.

Here is the list of mechanism and item the apple glitch make useless:

  • All the soda can
  • Canned Baked Beans
  • Canned Sardines
  • Canned Spaghetti
  • Canned Tuna
  • Can of Tactical Bacon
  • Canned Peaches
  • Crunchin Crisps Cereal
  • Powdered Milk
  • Rice
  • Canteen
  • Natural Water Pouch
  • Pickaxe
  • Farming Hoe
  • Field Shovel
  • Shovel
  • Ice axe
  • Green pepper seed
  • Tomato seed
  • Pumkin seed
  • Zucchini seed
  • Green Pepper
  • Tomato
  • Pumkin
  • Zucchini
  • Infected Dean and his Kiwi
  • Boar steak
  • Carp
  • Carp fillet
  • Chicken breast
  • cow steak
  • deer steak
  • fox steak
  • goat steak
  • human steak
  • mackerel
  • mackerel fillet
  • pig steak
  • rabbit
  • rabbit leg
  • sheep steak
  • Animal Lard
  • Improvised Fishing Rod
  • fishing rod
  • Fishing Hook
  • Small Fish Trap
  • Fish Net Trap
  • Bone Fishing Hook
  • rabbit snare
  • Cooking Pot
  • Cooking Tripod
  • Frying Pan
  • Portable Gas Stove
  • Blue-coloured Berries
  • Red-coloured Berries
  • poisoning people mechanism
  • The knowledge of which kind of berrie to eat
  • water purification tab
  • drinking to the ponds
  • Disinfectant Spray
  • Alcohol Tincture
  • Charcoal Tabs
  • catching cholera

And probably some more Items & mechanism... This glitch is really game breaking. More than half the body i loot are full of Apples, this glitch is widely used. If i well understanded you (the dev team) had to rewrite the whole scripts with the new engine, and you probably need the players to test each function of the game to find any bugs related to the transition. If half of the game is almost never used, then half the bugs might been not found until the fix of this glitch, off course this is an exaggeration.

6 more mounths with this glitch (untill the new annimation system) can't be honestly afforded.

They don't want to patch the legacy code and risk breaking other things. They are focused on implementing the new player controller instead. I think until they change the way apple trees work then it should stay. Currently its a dumb implementation to search for apples almost as if you are blindly reaching into the tree. Just my thoughts.

cs_wolf added a comment.EditedDec 15 2016, 10:18 AM

The other day I was encountering apples spawning in clothes, I would not mind this as a way around if the trees get disabled for stable.

I like what alphadoh said above, very true!

I am forcing myself to avoid apples and I am surviving, I am actually more interested in learning about all the methods in DayZ to gather food. Its pretty cool.

Great suggestion!

Jawsh removed a subscriber: Jawsh.Dec 15 2016, 1:44 PM