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Force 1st person in built up areas
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Zone areas of the map ie cities to force 1st person in order to prevent 3rd person abuse i.e. once you enter that area your view will autoswitch to 1st person and stay 1st person (with 3rd person disabled) until you leave that "zone"/area

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Legacy ID
3900367266
Severity
None
Resolution
Suspended
Reproducibility
N/A
Category
Feature Request
Additional Information

the effects of 3rd person abuse are clearly exaggerated in built up areas

most 3rd person servers cater to entry-level/casual gamers who will not accept total disabling of 3rd person

the solution is to zone areas of the map where 3rd person abuse will be most disruptive to immersive gameplay (cities are traditionally CQB areas and best played in 1st person) and disable 3rd person serverside within those zones

this solution would be especially effective in games such as dayz where long periods of time are invested and where a seasoned player can be killed by a noob who has learnt to abuse 3rd person from youtube videos

the argument that 3rd person substitutes for the low FOV that 1st person provides is in a way invalid as FOV can easily be adjusted within 10 minutes in config files - this process is the same for ARMA2 and ARMA3 and available through a google search

My FOV is 105 degrees.

  • ANYONE WHO DOWNVOTES THIS TICKET IS ESSENTIALLY SAYING THAT THEY ARE A 3RD PERSON NOOB

if you havent played arma for at least 3 years please do not vote

Event Timeline

DisasterMaster edited Additional Information. (Show Details)
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DisasterMaster set Legacy ID to 3900367266.May 7 2016, 3:57 PM
AD2001 added a subscriber: AD2001.May 7 2016, 3:57 PM

Third person can be abused everywhere almost equally. In forested areas you can peek around trees and over bushes, on hills you can peek over the top and in towns you can peek around buildings. To prevent abuse, they'd had to remove 3rd person all-together.
/didn't vote

the effects of 3rd person abuse are clearly exaggerated in built up areas

most 3rd person servers cater to entry-level/casual gamers who will not accept total disabling of 3rd person

therefore the solution is to zone areas of the map where 3rd person abuse will be most disruptive to immersive gameplay (cities are traditionally CQB areas and best played in 1st person)

I always play in 1st person, but the problem in towns is that you have almost no awareness due to the limited FoV, so turning 3rd person off is not the ideal solution.

FOV can easily be adjusted within 10 minutes in config files.

My FOV is 100 degrees.

mbbird added a subscriber: mbbird.May 7 2016, 3:57 PM

Anyone who downvotes this is actually someone who understands it's entirely up to the server for as to whether or not the player is even allowed to use third person in the first place.

Don't try to falsely guilt people into supporting you with your silly assumptions.

the other problem is that you simply cannot "always play in 1st person" on a 3rd person server because you will always lose to a 3rd personing noob at some point and the problem i have is not losing but the ridiculous way that it occurs - being spotted over walls/around buildings by some guy who has been lying prone in 3rd person for 15 minutes pretending to be tactical

it is against the ethos of the game

As I previously said, I didn't vote.

@mbbird this is my ticket and i will phrase it how i like if that is alright with you

there is no valid argument against the disabling of 3rd person within built up areas except a 3rd person noob who wants to keep abusing 3rd person in built up areas

@mbbird in fact if you werent so busy being just another internet moron you would realise that i am offering an intermediate solution for servers as in a hybrid "3rd + 1st person forced" setting for server owners but as usual the ones with the least brains talk the most

cashxx added a subscriber: cashxx.May 7 2016, 3:57 PM

Voted down....I want the control to control my views! Nice idea, but it would drive me nuts.

3rd person is arcadish!

+1 but totally removed, I never understood why the 3rd person exist for Arma. It's a simulation, you don't have an outside view in real life. And so much easy and not equal, sure that in MP you can loose face to a totally noob abusing of this. At least keep it just for SP for lower level, but in MP there's no sense.

Yeah, it's a feature request, I see that. I don't see it being of any remote priority for the devs, and I would not like to see it enabled if it were halfassed in any way.

i dont think you know anything about coding and how unbelievably easy this would be to implement

it would take about 1 hour to zone the map and that would be the end of it

like i said, anyone who votes this down is voting to use 3rd person in built up areas therefore is a noob

1kimon0 added a subscriber: 1kimon0.May 7 2016, 3:57 PM

If a PVP-focused server doesn't have the third person camera disabled, it's just the admin being a "noob".

Those who play with 3rd person should play to Call of Noob, Battlenoob or Noob Strike! ;-)

Insulting people and guilt tripping "vote so and so or you're a noob" is not how feedback, bug reports or feature requests should be made.

Either way, this change is way too specific for a feature that can be forced by server admins and mission makers.

Please leave the vitriol, insults out of your future tickets.