As I have said in the last Steps to Reproduce about the sites about changing my settings and updating my drivers yesterday I was able to join servers with my settings on Normal Not Low with my older drivers so I have no idea what is going on joining a new site doesn't cause any problems well it didn't yesterday and last night I have not tried to join the new servers tonight so nI am hoping that the new driver has not upset that I am about to go and join the server I was playing on last night so I will wee what happens. Regards Arnold McDonnell IE Renergade13.